Hardware :: Adding AirPort Extreme / Express With Broadband Modem?
Feb 10, 2009
I am finally jumping on the WiFi bandwagon at home - I know my macs pretty well but need advice at this wireless stuff...
1) I currently have a broadband modem that came with my BT broadband account - am I right I do not need to change this - just add an airport extreme/express to it?
2) What should I be considering when I am choosing between express/extreme? is extreme just longer range? I live in a 2 bed flat on 1 floor..
3) I would like to add some storage to this airport so I can store my itunes music on it and have it accessible to my laptop when I come in the house with it - I see airport extreme has a usb port - but is this USB2? if only usb1 then that would be very slow - what's the best way of adding wireless network storage (something like a firewire/usb2 drive like the drobo) to my wireless network?
4) - I am thinking about getting an apple tv - does extreme/express decision make any difference in this regard?
5) - If I want to run itunes through my main stereo - do I need to get a separate airport express for that? (Stereo and broadband modem are in different rooms in the flat) and does my laptop then work as itunes server, sending music from the storage attached to the airport extreme, to the express attached to the stereo?
6) - I see many people use a mac mini in systems like this - what are the advantages of having a separate mac mini added to the system to act as a media server as opposed to just using my laptop?
7) - If am am attaching media storage to a WiFi network - how do I make sure it is secure?
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May 27, 2009
I live in a fairly large house, and we have two airport devices. There is a time capsule on the second floor of one corner, and an airport extreme on the second floor of the other corner. The reason why they are in the corners is that the time capsule plugs into the cable modem / iMac directlly, and both of those are in one corner. As for the airport extreme, it also shares a wired connection with a tivo and a slingbox so it needs to stay where it is. I've had some slow connection issues, and I think the basic issue is distance / walls. If I turn off the Airport Extreme, I get a VERY weak signal in that corner of the house. Turning the Airport Extreme back on, I get a great WiFi signal, but the connection between the two base stations is pretty weak, so internet speeds can be mediocre at times. It occurred to me that there are two ways to fix the issue...
1) Install a 3rd party antenna on my Time Capsule. Some hacking will be required, which I am fine with doing.
2) Putting an Airport Express in between the two base stations.
I'm curious to hear some opinions on the two options. Option 1 will keep me from installing new hardware in the house, but how well do the external antennas work? Option 2 will be an easy solution, but will it work well? How much latency is added? Curious to hear more feedback from those using a network of Airport base stations in a large home.
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Jan 26, 2010
I'm looking into purchasing a modem through our phone carrier that will allow me to use internet at my house (much cheaper than the monopoly of cable internet). I was wondering if I can somehow make that 3g network modem wireless with my airport express so that I can use the internet wirelessly on multiple computers throughout the house (including appletv).
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Feb 25, 2009
I have just recieved a Macbook Pro as a birthday gift! Along with it came Airport Express. We already have an imac that is connected to the internet via an ethernet cable using the broadband provider Virgin Media. Can I create a wireless network with airport express and my broadband or do I need some sort of upgrade or additional hardware?
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Jun 21, 2009
I have just got an Airport Extreme. Before i had an Express to stream music to my amp but since adding in the Extreme I cant see how to add the Express.
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Nov 27, 2010
I am going to buy a new wireless and modem etc. I have been reading until im blue in the face now and keep swapping from the Billion to Draytek etc. I want top quality as this has to supply my business etc. My netgear has now just about given up so I am replacing everything. I have now settled on this and wanted any more input on my choices:
Airport Extreme current generation refurb from Apple store
Draytek Vigor 120 Modem
BT i-plate
New filters
I use mainly Apple gear so that is why I have eventually decided on the Airport.
I dont really need fancy features just good signal and great wireless range (have thick walls)..
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Nov 28, 2010
I have At&t DSL, just got it a few weeks back, but have had to continue using my old internet because I cannot setup my Airport Extreme with it. I am really confused on the setting that need to be in place.
Here is the info that I have seen and tried:
Connection type on the Airport should be normal ethernet.
Setup the modem with "Bridge Mode", that is the problem right there.
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Mar 5, 2009
I want to upgrade wifi network, and considering new Airport Extreme. Will run 2 MacBooks, G4 Powerbook and 2 PCs, as well as iPhone, PSP, etc. Currently use Netgear Rangemax DG834PN Modem/Router.
Should I use the Netgear box as DSL modem for Airport Extreme (it is 802.11 b/g), or get a new modem?
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Dec 3, 2010
I have an airport extreme but I'd like to extend the network upstairs.Will an airport express require a modem of its own? Also, will the Ethernet be just as fast as my airport extreme Ethernet?
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Dec 1, 2010
Upon getting my iPad and being unable to stream much without huge wait times, I've decided to take the plunge and get an Airport Extreme. Well, it arrived today, but alas it seems that I need a modem and Ethernet cord! Now, in my defense, I've been using a router that is both a modem and a router for years -- and it connected straight to the cable jack, so I didn't know that most routers needed a separate modem unit and Ethernet cord! Any way, it's too late to head out now so I'm going to have to wait till tomorrow to stream my precious netflix -- but I want to get it right this time; so...
I need an ethernet cord to connect the router and modem, right? The Modem/Router I've been using is called the SBG900 Wireless Surfboard Gateway. In my experience, the speeds have been dismal, but I should be able to use this as my modem -- right? Will it be slower than if I bought a separate modem? Does the modem even effect the speed of your internet or is that just the router?
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Apr 21, 2009
What is Airport Extreme? Can I use it in conjunction with my existing modem / router and share it with my internet connection?
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May 10, 2009
For the last 3 years I have used a Speed Touch 330 USB Broadband modem supplied by my provider Pipex
Initially only one computer was served - Mac Mini
Since then the following computers have now arrived
2 Powerbooks
1 Ibook
1 Imac
There is now a requirement for wireless connection to the internet
I have acquired an Airport Extreme Wireless Base Station
This has a single WAN port for modem connection
Can the above modem be successfully be connected by some means
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Feb 18, 2009
OK, so after several hours of swearing and cursing, i have my new airport extreme sitting behind my dsl modem now working and connected to the internet.
With my older linksys router, I had the dsl modem set to 'bridge' PPP location mode. That didn't work with the airport extreme it seems and nor did having the PPP on the modem. So, i selected 'PPP on the computer' PPP location mode and that seemed to do the trick.
So, question is -
- why doesn't 'bridge' mode work with the apple extreme? does it, and i'm not doing it right?
- is 'ppp on the computer' ok and any reason to not want this - any degradation in network performance etc?
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Aug 16, 2010
I'm using an airport extreme (latest firmware) with 10.6.3 on a mac pro and a macbook pro. The mac pro is wired the macbook pro is connected via wireless.
I constantly have signal drops. While the airport extreme seems to stay online (green light is sold) the cable modem always resets itself.
I can't figure out if this is because of my Optonline service or due to my router (airport extreme). Cablevision states nothing is wrong with my cable internet connection and the issue may be with the router. I've tried three different modems from them and they've supposedly checked everything (wires, signal, etc). I still think it has something to do with them. I'm hesitant to try DSL as it is slower (no fios here yet).
I don't get how it can be the router if both my desktop and laptop lose connection to the internet at the same time if they happen to be connected online at the same time.
Is there anything I'm overlooking in regards to the airport extreme? Should I trash a particular preference or try a different setting?
I'm kind of desperate at this point since it is highly annoying to constantly get knocked offline more than 5 times a day.
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Apr 25, 2010
I have an Airport Extreme, with two USB hard drives connected to it. The Airport Extreme shares these disks to my wireless network via Airport Disks.
Upstairs I have an Airport Express, that wirelessly connects to my Airport Extreme downstairs, and extends the wireless network so I get a good wireless reception upstairs.
My problem is, that it does not seem like me Airport Express does a good job of forwarding my 2 USB Airport Disks to the extended wireless network upstairs.
For example, when I use the AirVideo iPhone app to stream video from my USB Airport Disks I get a server connection error when I go upstairs and the iPad/iPhone switches to the Airport Express networks. I cannot reconnect as long as it is on the Airport Express network. If I turn the airport Express off, and thus switch to the poor wireless reception from the Airport Extreme, I can connect to the USB Airport disks again.
The Airport Express is connected to the Airport Extreme in bridged mode.
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Jan 29, 2009
Just a question for those who have used the Airports. Can a USB hub be used to expand the number of devices the Airport can use? i.e., an external hd, a laserjet, and an inkjet.
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Oct 11, 2009
Can it? If it can, would Airtunes still work like normal.
In other words, can I be connected to my Airport EXTREME and Airtunes would still work since the Airport EXTREME and EXPRESS are using the same network wifi-name (the Express is just extending the Extreme's range).
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Jan 1, 2009
A friend of mine has the following situation: In the living room he has a stereo hooked up to a single Airport Express (the only wireless router in the house.) In the sunroom he has an iMac Core 2 Duo running the latest version of Tiger hooked up directly to a DSL modem. Itunes recognizes this Airport express and successfully streams music to it. WiFi devices connect to this network but won't connect to the internet even though internet sharing is activated under the iMac's system preferences. Are there some tweaks in the settings that will make this work or does he absolutely need another Airport Express connected to the DSL modem?
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Mar 22, 2010
I have a cable modem from Motorola for my internet connection.
I'm planning to buy Airport Express so I can have a wireless connection for my MBP and iPod Touch.
Is it OK to connect Airport Express to my motorola modem ?
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Sep 27, 2010
i know Internet Service Providers give away modem or routers these day but wouldn't be best if Apple made an Airport Extreme or Time Capsule with a built-in modems? if you check people questions on apple.com you will see have half of them want to know how to switch off the wireless connection on their Linksys and let Airport Extreme do that and the other half doesn't even know what Airport Extreme is for i know Apple has a habit of getting rid of stuff but anyone else agree this will drive Airport Extreme sales up? it would be the ultimate connection device for macs and no need for additional router.
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Jan 27, 2009
I've just moved and have had to switch ISPs. I have DSL service and the only modem option my ISP provides is an all-in-one modem/Wi-Fi router. I have an AirPort Extreme that I would like to use, but with this setup, unfortunately, I have to put it behind the modem/router.
I've used the AirPort Extreme both wirelessly and via Ethernet, and it is noticeably slow in connecting to Web sites. My browser often gets stuck on "Looking up [URL]" or "Connecting to [URL]" when it's plugged into the AE via Ethernet. When I plug directly into the DSL modem/router, sites are connected to and loaded immediately. The problem only exists when plugged into the AE. (Strangely, speed tests show that the AE downloads at nearly the same speed as the DSL modem/router, but this doesn't account for the noticeable delay in connecting to and the initial loading of Web pages).
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Mar 9, 2010
I currently have the apple extreme as my wireless router. It works great. I absolutely love it. I have two macbook pro's (wife and I both have one) and use it for my PS3 and Xbox 360. I started a new job and was given a free HP desktop (not my choice, but hey, it's free, so what can I say). The desktop is not wireless and I am not able to put my computer near the airport extreme because my TV already owns that territory. Today I bought the Airport express to use as a bridge (and other things in the future). I have plugged it in. I opened the airport utility using my macbook. It finds my extreme and my express. I select that I want to set up the express. I select that I want to set it up using an existing wireless network. I select my airport extreme. It tells me that it has to restart the express. I wait approximately 3 minutes. It then tells me that the settings to the express have been changed but it's not able to find it.
My main goal is to use the express as a bridge. I have the express plugged in beside the desktop and want to run an ethernet cable from the express to the desktop to allow for wireless capability.
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Feb 15, 2009
I currently have Qwest DSL and have the 2wire 2700 hg modem. I have attached the picture of it. I currently have a Windows XP computer that is now a 2 1/2 year old computer (blah it was a hand me down). The Windows XP PC is currently hard-wired to the modem. I now have the 802.11n version of the AEBS. This is going to be used for my current Macbook. I have an office downstairs so I will be doing wirelessly. I want to use the 802.11n only option with my Macbook. Also another reason I want to disable the 2wire built in wireless feature and have it replaced by the AEBS is because Qwest is not doing anymore firmware upgrades for the 2wire 2700HG modem. By the way, my family sometimes visit and use 802.11g only on the devices they use. I know AEBS supports that. I just hope 2wire wireless feature can be disabled without no issues. These are the things I am wondering:
1. Has anybody run a similar setup to mine? Any things I should consider? Any pros or cons?
2. Should I turn off the 2wire modem firewall and turn on the firewall option on the Airport Extreme base station or vice versa?
3. Should I leave alone the NAT feature on the modem be left alone?
4. Does this kind of setup have to be run in "bridged" mode?
That's all the questions I have for now. I hope someone can help with this. I looked and looked for a similar question to these questions but could not find a recent forum post to mine.
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Jun 5, 2006
I have a PC (running XP Pro) that accesses the internet through a wired router (D-Link) hooked to a cable modem. My boyfriend just moved in with his iBook and Airport Express. I hooked the Airport Express to a LAN port on the wired router, and it basically works fine. He is able to access the internet wirelessly without any trouble. I also connected the printer to Airport Express and he is able to print wirelessly. However, I thought I was going to be able to also print to the printer because following info from Airport FAQ.
FROM AIRPORT EXPRESS FAQ:
Question: AirPort Express connects via wire to my third-party router, and I have plugged a compatible USB printer into AirPort Express. Will it share the printer with my non-Apple computers, too?
Answer: AirPort Express acts as a print server for any Mac OS X 10.2 or later, Windows 2000, or Windows XP computer that is on the same subnet, regardless of whether the third-party router is wired or wireless.
Can anyone comment on this? How can I make this feature work from my wired computer? Is there something I need to do to make them on the same subnet? Also, if there IS a way to print via Airport Express, is there a way for me to access airTunes too?
I did read a somewhat similar situation and this is what was advised. "Manually give it an IP address and subnet in airport admin (under the internet tab). For example if your router IP address is 192.168.x.1 with a subnet of 255.255.255.0 give your Airport Express 192.168.x.2 255.255.255.0. i.e. give your Airport Express 1 IP number higher than your router. Also make sure you are not distrupting IP address from your Airport Express, and you are creating a wifi not joining."
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Feb 13, 2010
I am upgrading from a g wireless router to an n. I have a Belkin right now that I hate. Neither I, on a mac, nor my roommate, on a PC, can get a consistent connection on it. Needless to say it's going back and I want to get an express or an extreme. I had actually bought an Airport Extreme first and it was lightening fast, but I was told that the Express was just as fast, so I went to exchange. The guy at BestBuy told me the Belkin was cheaper and just as fast, so I bought it. I would really like this to be my last trip to the store for a router. Do I need to shell out for the Extreme or is the Express just as fast if all you need is an n router?
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May 17, 2012
old G5 (ver. 7,3) running 10.5.8 OS and want to add airport extreme card. purchased A1026 card, installed and attached attenae cable and external ant, but the profiler shows "no info" under aiport. am i missing something obvious?
Info:
Power Mac G5, 1.5 Gb Ram, Dual 1.8 GHz, superdrive
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Oct 2, 2008
I am trying to add an Airport Express to my existing wireless network, in order to increase the range of the network.
I've run Airport Utility and gone through the setup wizard - everything seems to have gone of fine, it says "Settings for this Airport Express have been successfully updated" and then it goes into "Waiting for the Airport Express to restart..."
But that restart doesnt happen - or rather, I get the message "Unable to find the Airport Express base station" (words to that effect). And after this, I can no longer find that new Airport Express on the wifi network.
So I reset the base station and tried a manual setup. Same problem - settings updated, Airport Express doesnt restart properly and can no longer be found on the network.
Any ideas what is going on here? I tried it using Mac Mini running 10.5.3 and Airport Utility 5.3.1.
Edit - I just tried this doing this on my Macbook running 10.5.4 and Airport Utility 5.3.2 - same problem.
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Jan 26, 2009
I have a problem I've been working on for over an hour.
I have a uni MBP that has wireless internet and printing through an airport express (just internet and printing, not using Airtunes feature).
I bought a MBA last night and am trying to get it to work as well. It works just fine as far as wireless internet, but the wireless printing simply will not work. I have the printer listed in my MBA and all airport express utility settings seem to be A-OK, it just will not print wirelessly from the MBA. The printer queue just gives me the old Error 300: The printer does not respond.
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Jun 13, 2005
Can anyone explain to me Airport Extreme and Airport Express and their functions?
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Feb 16, 2009
I have an Airport Extreme Base Station and a Airport Express sitting in boxes, never being used.
Our house is already equipped with wireless connection through our DSL and Linksys router. (was in place when I moved in)
I was thinking of getting a time capsule for back up, but not sure if I could get it up and running with the Linksys or not.
Can I use my Express as an extender for using my laptop in the backyard? will it talk nicely with the Linksys?
What are your suggestions/opinions? I hate to see my beautiful Apple products sitting in boxes.
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