Hardware :: Using Slow Internet: AirPort Extreme Behind DSL Modem/router
Jan 27, 2009
I've just moved and have had to switch ISPs. I have DSL service and the only modem option my ISP provides is an all-in-one modem/Wi-Fi router. I have an AirPort Extreme that I would like to use, but with this setup, unfortunately, I have to put it behind the modem/router.
I've used the AirPort Extreme both wirelessly and via Ethernet, and it is noticeably slow in connecting to Web sites. My browser often gets stuck on "Looking up [URL]" or "Connecting to [URL]" when it's plugged into the AE via Ethernet. When I plug directly into the DSL modem/router, sites are connected to and loaded immediately. The problem only exists when plugged into the AE. (Strangely, speed tests show that the AE downloads at nearly the same speed as the DSL modem/router, but this doesn't account for the noticeable delay in connecting to and the initial loading of Web pages).
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Apr 21, 2009
What is Airport Extreme? Can I use it in conjunction with my existing modem / router and share it with my internet connection?
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Jan 19, 2010
I've owned a Netgear and a D-Link route before and with those, you could access all your router settings and statuses over the internet. The Login would usuallly be the ip address and the password would be one of your choice. I can't seem to find any settings to enable this on my Airport Extreme.
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Apr 14, 2010
ately i had an issue which i cannot resolve here. My APE seems to be the main cause to slow my internet in loading pages up. My speed with the check from ISP, it is great. However, I realize that my ping time is kinda high? What should I do to bring my internet back to smooth loading up?
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Nov 27, 2010
I am going to buy a new wireless and modem etc. I have been reading until im blue in the face now and keep swapping from the Billion to Draytek etc. I want top quality as this has to supply my business etc. My netgear has now just about given up so I am replacing everything. I have now settled on this and wanted any more input on my choices:
Airport Extreme current generation refurb from Apple store
Draytek Vigor 120 Modem
BT i-plate
New filters
I use mainly Apple gear so that is why I have eventually decided on the Airport.
I dont really need fancy features just good signal and great wireless range (have thick walls)..
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Nov 28, 2010
I have At&t DSL, just got it a few weeks back, but have had to continue using my old internet because I cannot setup my Airport Extreme with it. I am really confused on the setting that need to be in place.
Here is the info that I have seen and tried:
Connection type on the Airport should be normal ethernet.
Setup the modem with "Bridge Mode", that is the problem right there.
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Mar 5, 2009
I want to upgrade wifi network, and considering new Airport Extreme. Will run 2 MacBooks, G4 Powerbook and 2 PCs, as well as iPhone, PSP, etc. Currently use Netgear Rangemax DG834PN Modem/Router.
Should I use the Netgear box as DSL modem for Airport Extreme (it is 802.11 b/g), or get a new modem?
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Dec 1, 2010
Upon getting my iPad and being unable to stream much without huge wait times, I've decided to take the plunge and get an Airport Extreme. Well, it arrived today, but alas it seems that I need a modem and Ethernet cord! Now, in my defense, I've been using a router that is both a modem and a router for years -- and it connected straight to the cable jack, so I didn't know that most routers needed a separate modem unit and Ethernet cord! Any way, it's too late to head out now so I'm going to have to wait till tomorrow to stream my precious netflix -- but I want to get it right this time; so...
I need an ethernet cord to connect the router and modem, right? The Modem/Router I've been using is called the SBG900 Wireless Surfboard Gateway. In my experience, the speeds have been dismal, but I should be able to use this as my modem -- right? Will it be slower than if I bought a separate modem? Does the modem even effect the speed of your internet or is that just the router?
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May 10, 2009
For the last 3 years I have used a Speed Touch 330 USB Broadband modem supplied by my provider Pipex
Initially only one computer was served - Mac Mini
Since then the following computers have now arrived
2 Powerbooks
1 Ibook
1 Imac
There is now a requirement for wireless connection to the internet
I have acquired an Airport Extreme Wireless Base Station
This has a single WAN port for modem connection
Can the above modem be successfully be connected by some means
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Feb 18, 2009
OK, so after several hours of swearing and cursing, i have my new airport extreme sitting behind my dsl modem now working and connected to the internet.
With my older linksys router, I had the dsl modem set to 'bridge' PPP location mode. That didn't work with the airport extreme it seems and nor did having the PPP on the modem. So, i selected 'PPP on the computer' PPP location mode and that seemed to do the trick.
So, question is -
- why doesn't 'bridge' mode work with the apple extreme? does it, and i'm not doing it right?
- is 'ppp on the computer' ok and any reason to not want this - any degradation in network performance etc?
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Aug 16, 2010
I'm using an airport extreme (latest firmware) with 10.6.3 on a mac pro and a macbook pro. The mac pro is wired the macbook pro is connected via wireless.
I constantly have signal drops. While the airport extreme seems to stay online (green light is sold) the cable modem always resets itself.
I can't figure out if this is because of my Optonline service or due to my router (airport extreme). Cablevision states nothing is wrong with my cable internet connection and the issue may be with the router. I've tried three different modems from them and they've supposedly checked everything (wires, signal, etc). I still think it has something to do with them. I'm hesitant to try DSL as it is slower (no fios here yet).
I don't get how it can be the router if both my desktop and laptop lose connection to the internet at the same time if they happen to be connected online at the same time.
Is there anything I'm overlooking in regards to the airport extreme? Should I trash a particular preference or try a different setting?
I'm kind of desperate at this point since it is highly annoying to constantly get knocked offline more than 5 times a day.
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Feb 15, 2012
Just downloaded Lion, now the Airport wireless router keeps dropping the cable modem settings so I can't access the network, internet or WiFi. I have to repeatedly go back into System Preferences, Network, Assist Me, Network Diagnostics, choose the network port config, select WiFi, select my network and it restores all network settings and says "Internet connection appears to working correctly." This problem apparently happens whenever the computer goes to standby/sleep.
Info:
iMac, Mac OS X (10.7.2)
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Sep 27, 2010
i know Internet Service Providers give away modem or routers these day but wouldn't be best if Apple made an Airport Extreme or Time Capsule with a built-in modems? if you check people questions on apple.com you will see have half of them want to know how to switch off the wireless connection on their Linksys and let Airport Extreme do that and the other half doesn't even know what Airport Extreme is for i know Apple has a habit of getting rid of stuff but anyone else agree this will drive Airport Extreme sales up? it would be the ultimate connection device for macs and no need for additional router.
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Feb 10, 2009
I am finally jumping on the WiFi bandwagon at home - I know my macs pretty well but need advice at this wireless stuff...
1) I currently have a broadband modem that came with my BT broadband account - am I right I do not need to change this - just add an airport extreme/express to it?
2) What should I be considering when I am choosing between express/extreme? is extreme just longer range? I live in a 2 bed flat on 1 floor..
3) I would like to add some storage to this airport so I can store my itunes music on it and have it accessible to my laptop when I come in the house with it - I see airport extreme has a usb port - but is this USB2? if only usb1 then that would be very slow - what's the best way of adding wireless network storage (something like a firewire/usb2 drive like the drobo) to my wireless network?
4) - I am thinking about getting an apple tv - does extreme/express decision make any difference in this regard?
5) - If I want to run itunes through my main stereo - do I need to get a separate airport express for that? (Stereo and broadband modem are in different rooms in the flat) and does my laptop then work as itunes server, sending music from the storage attached to the airport extreme, to the express attached to the stereo?
6) - I see many people use a mac mini in systems like this - what are the advantages of having a separate mac mini added to the system to act as a media server as opposed to just using my laptop?
7) - If am am attaching media storage to a WiFi network - how do I make sure it is secure?
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Feb 15, 2009
I currently have Qwest DSL and have the 2wire 2700 hg modem. I have attached the picture of it. I currently have a Windows XP computer that is now a 2 1/2 year old computer (blah it was a hand me down). The Windows XP PC is currently hard-wired to the modem. I now have the 802.11n version of the AEBS. This is going to be used for my current Macbook. I have an office downstairs so I will be doing wirelessly. I want to use the 802.11n only option with my Macbook. Also another reason I want to disable the 2wire built in wireless feature and have it replaced by the AEBS is because Qwest is not doing anymore firmware upgrades for the 2wire 2700HG modem. By the way, my family sometimes visit and use 802.11g only on the devices they use. I know AEBS supports that. I just hope 2wire wireless feature can be disabled without no issues. These are the things I am wondering:
1. Has anybody run a similar setup to mine? Any things I should consider? Any pros or cons?
2. Should I turn off the 2wire modem firewall and turn on the firewall option on the Airport Extreme base station or vice versa?
3. Should I leave alone the NAT feature on the modem be left alone?
4. Does this kind of setup have to be run in "bridged" mode?
That's all the questions I have for now. I hope someone can help with this. I looked and looked for a similar question to these questions but could not find a recent forum post to mine.
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Feb 18, 2010
Just how do I connect a G4 to an Airport Extreme Base station via LAN cable, and then get it to connect to an existing wireless network (that's using a non Mac router). It's just that the existing airport card is painfully slow with a NAS and as I had the AE kicking about I thought I'd use that rather than buying a new PCI AE card.
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May 1, 2010
Just got my wireless router (base extreme) connected. There is no problem with connection to my HP netbook and internet works. However, there is no internet connection with my compaq presario notebook but wireless is connected. Does anyone know how i can connect to internet on PC?
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Oct 19, 2010
I have an old Belkin pre-N router and Virgin internet.
I am considering getting a new router and was wondering what people think about the airport extreme versus others, specifically the Netgear N300 dual band routers, such as the WNDR3700? Both are about the same price.
I have 3 Macbook Pros and an old Windows xp computer and my mac pro currently on our home network, with my mac pro on the ethernet cable and the rest on wireless.
Is the range on the airport extreme good for outdoors as well as going through walls to upstairs?
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Mar 3, 2009
I am sorry, whats the difference?
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Apr 9, 2009
OK I know this can be done and have searched many forums and I cannot find the whole walk through on the process!!!
I have the Airport Extreme one version back without the dual antennas and I'm trying to make up for that with my old linksys router. I want my airport extreme to transmit wireless N only! and my linksys to transmit wireless G only!! configuration setting to make this happen??
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Jun 17, 2012
How do I use my AirPort Extreme base station with my FIOS Router to extend my network? I have hard disks connected to my AirPort Extreme and would like to access them.
Info:
MacBook, Mac OS X (10.7.4)
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Feb 23, 2010
I just got a time capsule and replaced my extreme with it then added my 2 expresses to the network. Was getting 28-33mbps download speeds using speedtest.net to test now i'm getting only 4-6mbps. WTH!!! Also the transfer rate for backing up my macbook to the tc drive is ridiculous!!!
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Feb 12, 2009
Just bought an Airport Extreme from Apple. Is there anyway I can use it instead of my existing netopia router.
I'm getting mixed reports on whether I can do it. The AEBS appears to be able to take a dsl line.
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Mar 15, 2008
Does anyone out there is able to guide me thru the step on setting up a 2Wire all-in-one router with the AirPort Extreme base station? I was reading from somewhere, they were saying like i need to bridge the 2 router together or something.
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Feb 12, 2009
Just bought an Airport Extreme from Apple. Is there anyway I can use it instead of my existing netopia router.
I'm getting mixed reports on whether I can do it. The AEBS appears to be able to take a dsl line.
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Jul 8, 2009
i've just got my sister a emac G4 1ghz i installed the airport extreme card from my G5 cos she wants it in her bedroom but it's not connecting to the router, my router is a Thomson TG585 V7 i never had this problem with old airport, it only seems to be with extreme although the card was connecting to the network from my g5 was basically inches away from it, the Emac is on the floor about 2ft away i goto connect and it just keeps timing out, i've made sure the wpa key is correct and even tried manually entering the network config details but to no avail, is there any hope?
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Jul 10, 2009
I just bought an AE and replaced my older Linksys with SpeedStep router and for some reason the internet seems slower.I did a speed test to compare with my older system and it's night and day how much slower it is now.
With the Linksys I was getting from 10-15Mbits download.With the AE I'm just tested and got 700KB down Anyone have a clue as what I can do to speed it up?By the way, the AE is connected directly to my desktop by ethernet cable.
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Sep 13, 2009
I have an older MacPro 2006 model. I need a WiFi card for it. I want to know which one to get. Says a 802.11g AirPort Extreme will work. But is that only for Airport routers or can I use it with my Netgear router? Does it matter?
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Jan 4, 2011
I was reading through this old "Airport Extreme 2010" thread, but didn't see a discussion around 2011 yet - so I thought I'd start one.
I might have missed the news, but we never did end up getting a new version of Airport Extreme last year, right? So do you think the odds are good we'll get a new Extreme in 2011?
What's your best guess at a release date? Possibly around March 2011?
What new features would you expect a 2011 AEBS model to have? What upgrades would you like to see? Minor spec bumps? Stronger/wider range? More...?
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Jan 11, 2011
Since Saturday I've been having trouble connecting to the internet. For the last 18 months we've been connected to my Airport Extreme Base Station (2003) which in turn is wired to a Motorola SB5101 cable modem. Every time I had called the ISP (Comcast), they've been able to get it going while I was on the line by restarting the modem (which I tried before calling). Last night nothing would work no matter how many times I rebooted the modem and after many trial and errors, we were able to get connected to the internet by hooking my MBP directly to the ethernet cable from the modem and taking the Airport out of the equation. The service rep decided my router was likely at fault and I wasn't inclined to argue as it is an old router and things do break over time.
However, I ran out and bought a brand new Belkin Share wireless router and now neither that nor the Airport can connect to the internet even when the lights on the modem say all is well. Unfortunately, the Belkin came with it's own software package for router management and setup, which I'm not too keen on. It kept saying it couldn't connect to the modem or that the internet connection to the modem was lost. In tonight's efforts, I'm always able to plug my MBP right into the modem and get a connection, but as soon as I move that cable to the Airport or the new Belkin, my internet is gone. The Airport connection in the Network section of System Preferences always comes up as connected, but the Belkin glows dark red instead of green and the accompanying software says no connection to the internet can be found.
Does this sound more like the fault of the modem, the ISP, or me, the user? Any help would be much appreciated. Although I am able to connect now, my roommate's computer doesn't even have an ethernet port.
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