Power Mac G5 :: Intermittent Racing Fan And Lock-up
Dec 31, 2007
Sometimes when I push the power on button to boot up, the boot is incomplete and fans begin racing. I power off and try again, usually three to five times, each time getting a little further in the boot till finally it is successful. My Apple disk diagnostic detects this logic board error: 2FAN/4/8: Fan for backside. The problem has been around for a year, maybe two, but it is getting worse and worse.
What other things might I do before jumping to the expense of replacing the logic board?
I have run permission repairs, run ONYX maintenance routines, blown out the dust, scanned the surface of my hard drives...
I keep reading and searching for things to try. I'm going to replace the computer battery now. Should I press the SMU reset button?
I've been looking at the long list of read outs in my console and system logs, but don't know how to make sense of it. My system was pretty stable until about a month ago when I tried to update to QT 7.3... at least I think that's what started a host of software problems... including lots of Safari crashes, and problems exporting Final Cut Pro movie files. So I've got what I think are hardware and software issues. But for now I'd like to focus on the hardware problem discribed above with the logic board error. I only mention the other issues in case they might all be related.
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Nov 24, 2007
I run a dual 2 GHz G5 PPC (OS 10.4.10) - for the past 4-5 months I've been getting freeze ups for no apparent reason. These nearly always happen around the same time in the evening (around 11 pm) - although not every evening - probably 2/3 times a week. They can happen whether there is any activity on the computer or not. There is never anything on the console log at the time of the freeze up. I'm putting off an archive and install - though I've tried everything else - Disk First aid, Disk Warrior, permissions, fsck, cache cleaning, font checking, Memcheck, re-booting in safe mode, re-applying combo update, resetting the PRAM etc. - I've even tried replacing my secondary hard drive. I've also tried watching the Activity monitor around the problem time - unfortunately this is when it decides not to happen.
The Mac appears to run ok during the day (usually on by 7.30am) One other slightly odd thing is that sometimes at boot up a warning screen will appear and vanish in a 'nanosecond' - I think it could be the device removal warning -though nothing apart from my two internal drives may be connected. I also get this in the start up log 'family specific matching fails' on a number of usb items. Hope someone can help I'm running out of ideas.
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G5 Dual 2 Ghz PowerPC
Mac OS X (10.4.10)
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I have a sample here. You may need to turn up the volume to hear it. Yesterday I replaced the right side fan, but the sound is back. Now I'm thinking it's the speaker, but don't want to spend more money on parts unless I'm relatively confident of the problem.
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I was curious if this was a common problem? If not, is their anything I can do as a substitute for caps lock? Another key perhaps? Or, a button on the task bar or something?
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What are the chances I can find an AASP in the DC area who can do the repair in a day or two. I have read that the repair is only a power supply swap and can be done in 15 minutes. What do y'all think?
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START:Sat Mar 31 08:40:24 2012panic(cpu 3 caller 0xffffff80002a7c2e): "TLB invalidation IPI timeout: " "CPU(s) failed to respond to interrupts, unresponsive CPU bitmap: 0x80, NMIPI acks: orig: 0x0, now: 0x0"@/SourceCache/xnu/xnu-1699.24.23/osfmk/x86_64/pmap.c:2225Backtrace (CPU 3), Frame : Return Address0xffffff812a92b880 : 0xffffff8000220702 0xffffff812a92b900 :
[code]....
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Mac Pro (Early 2008), Mac OS X (10.7.3)
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iMac, Mac OS X (10.7.3)
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