Power Mac G5 :: Firewire Versus ESATA?
Nov 13, 2007
I want to add a second external drive, either 500 GB or 750 GB. It would be partitioned into one partition for cloning, and the other for TimeMachine when I upgrade to Leopard. Currently my external drives are all Firewire. Would there be any significant advantage for me to buy a SATA controller card for my G5 and then go to eSATA rather than Firewire? One online dealer I contacted said that the speed advantage for the SATA for my uses would be minimal, but the possible headaches of eSATA over Firewire could be signifcant. I"m conisedering the 750 GB LaCie d2 Quadra drive.
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G5 Dual 2.0, 2GB RAM
Mac OS X (10.4.10)
also running IMac Intel 2.0/2
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Jan 25, 2009
Is it possible to make an adaptor to connect an Esata Cable to a Firewire 800 Connector ?
i would like to connect my Esata Harddrive to a Firewire 800 port..
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Jul 10, 2008
I am looking for an eSata, Firewire 800, USB external enclosure that has removable trays for two or more hard drives. Specifically I am trying to find one that has the similar apperance of the Mac Pro, aluminum case and such.
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Aug 17, 2009
I recently got a few external HDD, and for the life of me couldn't find any Firewire equipped enclosures. Seems eSata and USB have taken the standard.
So I decided to just suck it up and use USB.
Now apple has taken away the express card slot, is there any way to utilise eSata on a MBP? The only conceivable way would be through firewire.
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Nov 8, 2009
I am buying an external Blu-Ray drive and have been looking at one by OWC that has USB 2.0, Firewire 400, 800, and eSATA connectors. I've really become interested in a drive that is made by Buffalo Technologies and has a USB 2.0 and eSATA connector. The issues are as follows:
-Will USB 2.0 handle the bandwith well or do I really need something such as Firewire or eSATA?
-Most of all, is there an adapter to convert an eSATA connector such as on the Blu-Ray drive to a Firewire connector that I could plug in the front of my Mac Pro?
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Jun 13, 2010
Does anyone know how the performance compares between (1) an external hard disk connected with eSATA, through a PCIE card, and (2) the same disk connected directly to Firewire 800? Is there some data about this?
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May 31, 2012
I have a late 2008 12" MacBook with a FireWire 400 slot (only). I am hooking up an 8TB Raid hard drive to it for digitizing, backup and editing on FCP 6 and would like to have a higher speed available than the laptop's FireWire 400 provides. Is there a way to augment/build out the MacBook to utilize either a FireWire 800 slot or an eSATA EC2 card? I don't think this version of the MacBook (MacBook4,1) has a PCI or PCIe card slot. Although I believe it may have a mini-PCIe card somewhere, as the last page of the Users Guide says (under Europe—EU Declaration of Conformity):
"Hereby, Apple Inc. declares that this 802.11a/b/g/n Mini-PCIe card is in compliance with the R&TTE Directive."
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MacBook, Mac OS X (10.5.8), 2.4 GHz Intel Core 2 Dup
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Nov 6, 2010
I have a 2010 macbook pro with snowleopard on it & have a 7 port ac powered usb hub hooked up to it. If I plug in 1 or more external hard drives into the hub & have them working together/transferring files, will there be a big slowdown?right now my hard drives are in just usb 2.0 enclosures. Would it be worth upgrading their enclosures to firew wire - esata? would I feel a performance difference?
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Dec 12, 2010
I am looking for a eSata expresscard for my MacBook Pro. I have a problem with looping my G Drive external through my firewire soundcard due to the single bus on the mbp. It just doesn't like it. What eSata expresscard adaptor would you recommend so i can hook my G Drive upto it?
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Jan 3, 2010
I know USB 3.0 is coming out and would like to know if it will be faster than Firewire 800?
It 's confirmed some of computer providers will be releasing their products with USB 3.0 ports on this month, January. like Lenovo Thinkpad W510
I'm thinking of returning my iMac for the refund and wait til new iMac comes with USB 3.0 ports (if it is a lot faster than firewire 800) and of course wait til Apple has eliminated all current problems for this iMac.
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Mar 20, 2012
People have told me that FireWire 800 is faster than USB 3.0, and I believe them based on my low trust for USB's promised speeds (USB 2.0 claims to be faster than FW400, but that is a complete lie). Of course, I know that USB 3.0 has a faster promised speed than FireWire 800. I like how FireWire is truly peer-to-peer, allowing for faster data transfers, and I'm wondering if something like USB can actually beat that. Has anyone tried a test comparing USB 3.0 to FireWire 800? I heard that there are USB 3.0 adapters for Mac Pros. Or maybe someone has a non-Mac with FW800. I want to know just how fast USB 3.0 is compared to my long-time favorite FireWire.
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iMac6,1 (Late 2006 iMac Intel), 3 GB RAM, 2.33 GHz Processor, 2 TB internal HD, Mac OS X (10.5.8), Minor GUI mods, a lot of stuff connected with FireWire or USB
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Dec 3, 2007
I get unexpected problems with a dual 1.8 G5 (2 GB RAM, 2 disks inside, both 320 GB). In fact, the machine seems to break any hard drive I plug in it (via USB, eSata or internal HD). The internal hard drive hosting the system is clicking every five minutes or so, and two external hard drives are now mostly unsable (they unexpectedly unmount when copying, or they just don't mount at all). I checked them all with DiskWarrior. Some times, they can be repaired, sometimes not.
The problems appear with Tiger and Leopard as well. I lost Time Machine backups form an external hard drive (Seagate 320GB, got "keys out of order" error message in DiskUtility). The other external HD I have to put my photos (750 GB Seagate) can be used in both eSATA via Lacie PCI card and USB. Both USB and eSATA fail unexpectedly (unmount while copying) and everytime the hard drives seems to fail more and more everytime I try to use them.
I used Apple products since years '80 (SE30) and did not have problems whatsoever with previous machine and my actual macbook Pro. This G5 is getting me crazy, and I don't want to put hundreds of dollars repairing since it is worth less than 800$ actually... Is it the power supply, the logic board, a problem with electric voltage up and down? I always found solutions to problems but now, it is the first time I don't see the light... I feel like everytime I plug a hard drive in this G5, I play with fire and may loose my backups and archives!
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Jun 19, 2010
I have found that by plugging in my Apogee Duet firewire audio interface and ONLY WHEN AppleFWAudio was loaded there was a 10c CPU raise that was making my MBP (late 2008) hot!I wanted to monitor the power that was required for Duet to run and to see if the temperature rise was due to that, so:With Apogee drivers uninstalled (just to be sure its not their drivers related, which is notMBP on battery power with System Profiler opened (to monitor the mA required by the computer from System Profiler -> Power)
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Apr 16, 2008
I have problem connecting my camcorder (a mini DVD-based Sony DCR-608E) with I-Mac 20". Based on the many threads I've been reading, I guess it's best for me to get a new camcorder.
Am currently considering to buy a camcorder with a firewire port but haven't decided between Mini-DV based or HD. My main consideration is the image quality and cost effiency.
Anybody using i-Movie has any recommendation? Should I go for Mini-DV or HD? What are the upsides/downsides?
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Nov 26, 2007
I have a great G5 Dual Processor, and would like to add a PCI-X card to give me more Firewire connections. I have been all over the internet and made a lot of phone calls, but no one seems to have a clue as to where such a beast may be found. If not, are there any work-arounds?
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G5
Mac OS X (10.4.10)
Run several Macs at work & home
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Jan 5, 2010
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Dec 2, 2007
3 times in the last week, my 400 & 800 firewire ports are not working. I am using a firewire hub with several external drives. I unplug everything, reboot and then they work. anyone know what is going on?
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Power Mac G5
Mac OS X (10.4.2)
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Dec 13, 2007
Both my firewire ports are not working. No signal or connection with external hard drive or video camera. Firewire does not appear under Network Status and is grayed out under Network Port Configurations.
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PowerMac G5
Mac OS X (10.4.11)
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Jun 30, 2012
I installed Mac OS X Tiger (10.4) on to my iPod. I tried booting on my Power Mac, which I used to install OS X, but no video. It won't even boot to X on my MacBook! What should I do?
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iPod 2G, Mac OS X (10.4)
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Aug 9, 2009
When I want to finish a session of using Vista in VirtualBox. If I "x" out the application, "it says "save in state" or something like that and "power off machine" is power off machine different than shutting down windows? What's best to do and what does what? I'm assuming also that I can't just close virtualbox and come back to it later without windows being shut down or affected?
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Mar 16, 2009
I was wondering if theres an external similar to the Mypassport that runs firewire 400 or 800?
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Aug 18, 2009
I have a MBP intel that I made a clone off via superduper on my portable firewire hd. I'm trying to get my power mac g5 to boot off of the clone via the portable hd.I've tried checking Startup Disk within the sys pref area but it does not list the portable hd there, although, I am able to see the hd on the desktop (add, del, move files etc)so the portable hd is working fine.I've also tried booting up holding down the Option key but it doesn't work, I think it is because I am using a wireless logitech pc keyboard (no i dont have any other keyboard to use unfortunately).I did a search and apple said to make sure that I update my firmware? Not sure where to find that specific firmware to make this work.
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Mar 15, 2012
When I plug in a DV camera to the 400 firewire buss and go to system profile/firewire, the DV camera doesn't show up.....but, when I turn the firewire hard drives off (pull their power) thus disconnecting them from the 800 firewire buss, the DV camera shows up....
If I have my firewire external drives connected to the 800 firewire port, and the DV camera connected to the 400 firewire port sometimes (not often) the the dv camera works, most of the time it doesn't..The only way I can get the dv camera to work is to disconnect the firewire hard drives from the computer then all is good in the land of "MAC)..
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G5, Mac OS X (10.3.x)
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Mar 16, 2012
I am going to buy a new 17" MacBook Pro soon and I've been doing research on how to customize it when I get it. I want to install my own SLC SSD as the internal drive because it's cheaper and has a longer life expectancy. Because of the limited capacity of SSDs these days, I am also going to be getting an external HDD to keep all my data that would not benefit greatly from SSD speeds, as well as for backups of everything on the internal SSD.
I wanted this external HDD to meet three criteria:1TB capacity7200rpm speed2.5" size, so that I can use it without needing to plug it into a power socket There aren't many options to choose from that meet those requirements. In fact, I only found one candidate, the “Seagate Constellation.2”. It looks like a good set of specs and Seagate is a reputable hard disk maker I've read, so I'm just about ready to buy one. My only point of concern is whether it can be powered and operated solely over FireWire, or if I would have to use a power adapter.
So my question is, can the 17" MBP (Late 2011) supply enough watts/volts/amps over FireWire 800 in order to power this Seagate disk? (Sorry for rambling too much) I have looked at the spec sheet and read up on IEEE 1394, i.e. FireWire, and I wasn't able to come up with a definitive answer, and I'm not even confident about how these electronics operate (specifically if the watt/volt/ampere requirements have to be met precisely or if they can go over or under a little, or a lot). I hope someone helps me out here.
Now here are the relevant specs, from the ST91000640NS product page: 12V start max current0.85A5V start max current0.51AAverage idle power2.95WAverage operating power5.43W According to Wikipedia's article on IEEE 1394, FireWire can supply a maximum of 45W and 30V. Apple's FireWire Ports Specifications article says: Input voltage range8 to 33 VInput power0.3 WOutput voltage range12 V to 30 V (varies by product)Output powerminimum of 7 W per port The disk will be put in an OWC Mercury Elite Pro Mini enclosure, by the way.
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MacBook Pro, Mac OS X (10.7.3)
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Feb 15, 2008
I am looking to get another mac to do some basic video editing and encoding. All the editing is going to be done in the mpeg4 format and once the video has been edited I am going to encode the video into H.264. My question is which will be better A Power Mac Dual 1.8Ghz G5 or a Mac Mini Core 2 Duo?
I am looking for stable set up that can handle encoding video for a few hours at a time. I am leaning towards the Power Mac Dual G5 because of how much more cooling it has however that said a Mac Mini with a Core 2 Duo running at 1.66 Ghz would also probabley work well.
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Dec 26, 2007
The firewire port on the front of my machine is bad. I can't transfer any kind of data using it. The port on the back as well as all USB ports work fine. Would this need a complete motherboard replacement? Would it even be worth doing? Could I build a dual processing machine or buy one cheaper?
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G5
Mac OS X (10.4.4)
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Nov 13, 2010
I have to get a external drive for backup with Time Machine. Everyone says to get Firewire I guess because its faster...but.Do you need to use the power cord for those? I know some USB drives you can only use the USB cable and it powers it which is handy because I move the drive a lot and I hate connecting two cables....do firewire drives need both cables?
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Apr 15, 2009
I have a WD Terabyte drive that I have used for over a year with no problems. A couple of days ago my roommate went to use it and disconnected the drive from my computer without ejecting it first. He used it with his PC and disconnected it without "safely removing" it from his computer and now it will not mount to my desktop of been seen by PC. Disk Utility sees the device but I get an error when I try to repair the disk or verify the disk. It gives me an "error on exit" message. I really need the 700GB of info on that drive. Don't know what to do next.
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Powerbook G4
Mac OS X (10.4.11)
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Dec 20, 2009
Someone switched off the power to my iMac the other day. Since I've rebooted:a] System Profiler shows no awareness of FireWire ("Unable to list FireWire devices" in red) b] Every boot takes about five minutes, 3+ of which seems to be spent waiting for a response from the FireWire socket (the logs show a 3-minute gap followed by a line that goes something like this:"/usr/lib/exec/hidd: Timeout waiting for IOKit to be quiet")
c] if it's idle long enough to go to sleep, it goes into a kernel panic (the last line in the log before the panic says"kernel[0]: IOPMSlotsMacRISC4::determineSleepSupport has canSleep true")b] looks connected to a], but I can't see any connection with c] (apart from the reference to IO).
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Nov 2, 2009
I'm looking for a new monitor to go with my MBP, and I'm stuck trying to choose between the ones listed above.
The 2407WFP is a couple of years old now I guess, but it's the rev A04 version, which supposedly fixed the (few) problems with what was otherwise meant to be a great screen. It's an sPVA screen.
I've heard good reviews of the G2410, with its LED backlighting. It's still a TN panel and I hear so much bad stuff about them.
The 2209WA is an eIPS panel which I like the sound of, but it's smaller and lower resolution.
The F2380 is a cPVA panel, the image quality looks better but I've heard bad things about blacks on this panel.
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