MacBook Pro :: Performance Of ESATA Over PCIE Vs. Firewire 800?
Jun 13, 2010
Does anyone know how the performance compares between (1) an external hard disk connected with eSATA, through a PCIE card, and (2) the same disk connected directly to Firewire 800? Is there some data about this?
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Oct 8, 2010
I was told to buy one of these [URL:...] because it is supposedly better than USB2/FW for external DVD burning.
1) Is that true?
2) What else could I use the eSATA port for?
3) Is there a better PCIe card I should consider for other purposes down the road?
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Mar 12, 2008
I've got a 2008 Mac Pro with 4 internal hard drives that are in a 0+1 software raid. Unfortunately, this prevents me from using Boot camp on any of these drives.
I'm curious, is there a PCIe card that adds eSata ports that would allow me to put Windows XP on an external enclosure that is bootable?
I've been scouring the message boards and forums and have found cards by CalDigit, FirmTek and Sonnet, but I have no idea if any of these will support with Boot Camp/Windows.
I'm not interested in using the on mobo SATA ports because A) they aren't recognized in Windows, and B) I don't want to put a drive up in the CD drive bays (because of the bad airflow).
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Aug 17, 2009
I recently got a few external HDD, and for the life of me couldn't find any Firewire equipped enclosures. Seems eSata and USB have taken the standard.
So I decided to just suck it up and use USB.
Now apple has taken away the express card slot, is there any way to utilise eSata on a MBP? The only conceivable way would be through firewire.
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May 31, 2012
I have a late 2008 12" MacBook with a FireWire 400 slot (only). I am hooking up an 8TB Raid hard drive to it for digitizing, backup and editing on FCP 6 and would like to have a higher speed available than the laptop's FireWire 400 provides. Is there a way to augment/build out the MacBook to utilize either a FireWire 800 slot or an eSATA EC2 card? I don't think this version of the MacBook (MacBook4,1) has a PCI or PCIe card slot. Although I believe it may have a mini-PCIe card somewhere, as the last page of the Users Guide says (under Europe—EU Declaration of Conformity):
"Hereby, Apple Inc. declares that this 802.11a/b/g/n Mini-PCIe card is in compliance with the R&TTE Directive."
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MacBook, Mac OS X (10.5.8), 2.4 GHz Intel Core 2 Dup
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Dec 12, 2010
I am looking for a eSata expresscard for my MacBook Pro. I have a problem with looping my G Drive external through my firewire soundcard due to the single bus on the mbp. It just doesn't like it. What eSata expresscard adaptor would you recommend so i can hook my G Drive upto it?
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Jan 25, 2009
Is it possible to make an adaptor to connect an Esata Cable to a Firewire 800 Connector ?
i would like to connect my Esata Harddrive to a Firewire 800 port..
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Nov 13, 2007
I want to add a second external drive, either 500 GB or 750 GB. It would be partitioned into one partition for cloning, and the other for TimeMachine when I upgrade to Leopard. Currently my external drives are all Firewire. Would there be any significant advantage for me to buy a SATA controller card for my G5 and then go to eSATA rather than Firewire? One online dealer I contacted said that the speed advantage for the SATA for my uses would be minimal, but the possible headaches of eSATA over Firewire could be signifcant. I"m conisedering the 750 GB LaCie d2 Quadra drive.
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G5 Dual 2.0, 2GB RAM
Mac OS X (10.4.10)
also running IMac Intel 2.0/2
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Jul 10, 2008
I am looking for an eSata, Firewire 800, USB external enclosure that has removable trays for two or more hard drives. Specifically I am trying to find one that has the similar apperance of the Mac Pro, aluminum case and such.
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Nov 8, 2009
I am buying an external Blu-Ray drive and have been looking at one by OWC that has USB 2.0, Firewire 400, 800, and eSATA connectors. I've really become interested in a drive that is made by Buffalo Technologies and has a USB 2.0 and eSATA connector. The issues are as follows:
-Will USB 2.0 handle the bandwith well or do I really need something such as Firewire or eSATA?
-Most of all, is there an adapter to convert an eSATA connector such as on the Blu-Ray drive to a Firewire connector that I could plug in the front of my Mac Pro?
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Nov 6, 2010
I have a 2010 macbook pro with snowleopard on it & have a 7 port ac powered usb hub hooked up to it. If I plug in 1 or more external hard drives into the hub & have them working together/transferring files, will there be a big slowdown?right now my hard drives are in just usb 2.0 enclosures. Would it be worth upgrading their enclosures to firew wire - esata? would I feel a performance difference?
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Feb 14, 2010
I am using an Apogee Duet with a late 09 Mac Mini, and have suffered through crappy graphics/general performance for some time. I really kinda shrugged this off until getting quite tired of it and did some searching around. After looking around I have discovered that I am not the only one who experiences this problem, and it has been pegged to core audio drivers. Which is odd.Disabling core audio through plists does indeed alleviate the issue it seems. Unplugging the Duet also alleviates this issue. When it is plugged in I see higher temperatures, slower overall performance and very choppy graphics performance, especially in expose and spaces. However this also affects the standard graphics in OSX.
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Jul 4, 2012
Does the current MacBook air have it's sd card reader connected to the PCIe bus or are they still limited to 480Mbs (like my late 2010 MBA)?
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MacBook Air, iOS 5.1.1
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Aug 10, 2010
I need a simple, non fancy SATAII controller I can put into my 2009 Mac Pro. I don't need RAID, it's basically just for connecting DVD drives. The only thing that's important is that I can boot from that controller. I currently have one by jmicron that can boot OS X, but it does not boot Windows DVDs. Not sure why. Nice to have would be eSATA for external stuff. Any recommendations?
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Feb 16, 2009
I currently have my second MBP that I got from Macmall and both in a matter of two weeks have had similar issues. The first I managed to get returned and replaced, that is a seperate and complicated story in and of itself. This particular issue started with a boot up sequence that was taking about 5-6 mins. After going through the drill with Applecare thought I could restore using Time Machine. That's when I found out that the FW400 port no longer worked to power my Oyen Digital 250G FW drive. Any thoughts as to what might be the problem? This is my second MBP and Oyen Digital FW drive. I had them both replaced!
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May 21, 2012
I have a 2010 Mac Pro (5,1).8 core. 24 gigs or RAM.I'm having trouble with my Blackmagic Intensity Pro PCI card. I've installed all drivers, tried all the different PCI ports and still my MP fails to recognise it. In the system preferences panel, all options are greyed out and a message says "No Settings Required".At first I thought it'd be a faulty card, but then I tried the card on my friend's 2008 Mac Pro, and it works just fine. What could possibly be wrong? Are the PCI slots on my machine damaged?
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Mac Pro, Mac OS X (10.7.4)
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Jul 13, 2010
ive searched around a lot and only found topics talking about the AGP PM (which the x800xt sounds like its the best card) but iam looking for the best card for the Quad 2.5 DC DP.
Ive got an older NV silencer also hanging around from an old gpu fan swap, so thats available for the upgrade aswell.
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Feb 8, 2012
I just got the external harddrive "Seagate FreeAgent GoFlex USB 3.0 1TB" with a Seagate FreeAgent GoFlex Upgrade Kabel FireWire 800. I have neither a USB 3.0, nor a Firewire 800 on my white macbook (2008). I already know, that it's possible to use USB 3.0 with an USB 2.0 port, but I would like to use it with the firewire to spare the USB port for other devices. My question: Is there an adapter or cable to use the Seagate Firewire 800 with my Firewire 400 port? I don't know, where and what to look for.
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MacBook (13-inch Early 2008), Mac OS X (10.6.8)
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Jun 27, 2010
I have a somewhat old Seagate FreeAgent external drive (like this).
It has a switchable port controller, one has a USB2 and eSATA and the other has two FireWire 400 ports [URL].
Now, on the FW controller it says "Dual FireWire 400".
What is Dual FireWire 400? And does it implicate that I can use both ports together somehow and get FW800 by that?
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Jul 14, 2010
I have a 2007 MBP with sata150. Currently the drive is a C300 64gb and it's very fast even though read speeds are capped. If I get an expresscard esata adaptor and run my ssd from there will I get faster throughput than with the drive on the internal sata bus, assuming the esata card I get has a good enough controller? From my understanding the mbp's expresscard is connected through pci express at 2.5 gbits. Is this correct? Any old-style MBP users out there with esata and SSD?
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Oct 12, 2009
I just got a Mac Mini (March 2009 model) and want to connect it via Firewire to my Sony TRV-22 camcoder. The camcorder has a Mini DV Firewire jack on it (I think this is called a 4-pin connector sometimes too). But on the Mac Mini, I can't tell if I need a 6-pin or a 9-pin. Can someone point me to a good cable so I can dump some MiniDV tapes into iMovie?
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Mar 31, 2009
I have the new 15 in MBP and bought a e-sata express card from OWC which is the Apiotek Extreme Dual e-sata [URL]. At first it could not be seen so I went to there site and downloaded the driver for it and got several grey screens of death kernel panics. I know the Sonnet Tempo SATA Pro ExpressCard/34 is supposed to work on the new unibody but after all that I bought to get this system up to the speed I need, was trying to avoid another 280 dollars and want another 4gb Ram chip more. [URL]. I am only running one external drive like this for PS scratch, OS backup and a working drive that is partitioned in 3 sections. Wondering if there is another express card that is working in the new 15 in 2.93 without any issues.
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Jul 7, 2009
I just did a search and found nothing but an extremely lengthy thread that makes no sense and doesn't even answer the question. I just want a simple answer here: I have a new 17" '09 uMBP. I want to use my eSata external hard drives. What expresscard adapter should I buy? I was transferring stuff over via USB and was horrified: 25 minutes to transfer 20 gigs of pictures! 20 gigs should take no more than 5, maybe 10 minutes tops over eSata (as it did on my old laptop). So which eSata-Expresscard actually works for the uMBP's?
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Oct 22, 2008
I tried installing a Dynex eSATA II ExpressCard Adapter that I bought at Best Buy. I downloaded the drivers off of the website and tried to install them and got an error message: the following failed: run preflight script for Sil3132 Mac OS X Driver. Contact the software manufacturer for assistance.
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Oct 27, 2009
Recently upgrading, I bought the newest MBP 17" specifically because it still had the expresscard slot (thinking having eSATA capability would make it the only pro laptop in the new lineup). I don't need my storage to be portable, I edit at home. Being new to RAID I've been researching and asking questions. I want to get the best setup for my money. People have recommended FW800 but that doesn't help me need to get the most speed possible, I feel eSATA is faster. I also want the redundancy in case a drive crashes. But the MBP only has one expresscard slot.
Does this mean my bandwidth is limited to one 300Mb/s channel? i.e. Should I not even consider RAID0 on a MBP since the bottleneck is 300MB/s? Barefeats recommends this adapter saying it's the fastest they tested at only 200MB/s! So what advantage will stripping give? It seems with only one available eSATA channel the MBP doesn't have many options for professional storage (although still faster than FW800). What would people recommend?..........
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Nov 6, 2009
I recently bought an SSD vertex 64gb for only 200$ cad. Unfortunately, I do not have enough space to install the Soundtrack Pro components on this drive. I recently bought too an eSata powered cable and a express card esata who came with it. The hard drive can't be detect on my macbook pro unibody late 2008 2,4" but runs. I install the silicon image drivers non-SL and adding over that the SL drivers.
[URL] In that case, I want to know how to uninstall those drivers from silicon image 3132? I thought about another thing if it really not work eventually. The dvd-drive bay could be remplaced by an enclosure 2.5" for my factory 250gb 5400rpm.
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Second question, Does this other hard drive will take a lot more power?
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Jul 28, 2009
I have a 15" MacBook Pro from a couple of years ago (2.0 GHz) and I am about to upgrade my harddrive from 75 GB to 500 GB (and from 5400 to 7200 rpm). I think I am going to simply clone my harddrive, so I bought an enclosure for my new drive to use when transferring all my data. The enclosure I purchased works with usb 2.0 or eSATA.
My question is, should I take advantage of the eSATA speeds? Do you think it's worth it? For another 50 bucks I could by an expresscard and a cable that will allow me to do the transfer via eSATA. Should I bother or should I just stick with USB 2.0? I hear USB 3.0 is coming out early next year, so I was thinking I shouldn't bother with eSATA (though 50 bucks isn't much of an investment). But I'm not about to wait for USB 3.0 to come out. Do you think it would be worth spending the money to get the extra speed for this transfer? My 75 GB drive is almost full.
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May 26, 2010
I would like to set up a mac pro using Slots 1 & 2 for RME ADAT digital audio cards and move the graphics card (geforce GT 120 512mb) to slot 3 or 4 so that I can maximize slot speeds for multiple audio playback via logic. Is this possible?
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Jan 21, 2010
I googled it and it didn't help out as much. I have this Shure Mic and it has MIDI input and would like to have some kind of adapter to firewire. I know there is an USB adapter, but i would like to use firewire. It can be firewire 400 or 800. I like to record some songs for GarageBand.
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Jun 22, 2012
can I put firewire connector 400 in the firewire port 800?
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iMac, Mac OS X (10.7.4)
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