Intel Mac :: FireWire Versus USB 3.0?
Mar 20, 2012
People have told me that FireWire 800 is faster than USB 3.0, and I believe them based on my low trust for USB's promised speeds (USB 2.0 claims to be faster than FW400, but that is a complete lie). Of course, I know that USB 3.0 has a faster promised speed than FireWire 800. I like how FireWire is truly peer-to-peer, allowing for faster data transfers, and I'm wondering if something like USB can actually beat that. Has anyone tried a test comparing USB 3.0 to FireWire 800? I heard that there are USB 3.0 adapters for Mac Pros. Or maybe someone has a non-Mac with FW800. I want to know just how fast USB 3.0 is compared to my long-time favorite FireWire.
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iMac6,1 (Late 2006 iMac Intel), 3 GB RAM, 2.33 GHz Processor, 2 TB internal HD, Mac OS X (10.5.8), Minor GUI mods, a lot of stuff connected with FireWire or USB
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Jan 3, 2010
I know USB 3.0 is coming out and would like to know if it will be faster than Firewire 800?
It 's confirmed some of computer providers will be releasing their products with USB 3.0 ports on this month, January. like Lenovo Thinkpad W510
I'm thinking of returning my iMac for the refund and wait til new iMac comes with USB 3.0 ports (if it is a lot faster than firewire 800) and of course wait til Apple has eliminated all current problems for this iMac.
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Nov 13, 2007
I want to add a second external drive, either 500 GB or 750 GB. It would be partitioned into one partition for cloning, and the other for TimeMachine when I upgrade to Leopard. Currently my external drives are all Firewire. Would there be any significant advantage for me to buy a SATA controller card for my G5 and then go to eSATA rather than Firewire? One online dealer I contacted said that the speed advantage for the SATA for my uses would be minimal, but the possible headaches of eSATA over Firewire could be signifcant. I"m conisedering the 750 GB LaCie d2 Quadra drive.
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G5 Dual 2.0, 2GB RAM
Mac OS X (10.4.10)
also running IMac Intel 2.0/2
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Apr 16, 2008
I have problem connecting my camcorder (a mini DVD-based Sony DCR-608E) with I-Mac 20". Based on the many threads I've been reading, I guess it's best for me to get a new camcorder.
Am currently considering to buy a camcorder with a firewire port but haven't decided between Mini-DV based or HD. My main consideration is the image quality and cost effiency.
Anybody using i-Movie has any recommendation? Should I go for Mini-DV or HD? What are the upsides/downsides?
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Jun 22, 2012
can I put firewire connector 400 in the firewire port 800?
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iMac, Mac OS X (10.7.4)
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Nov 2, 2009
I'm looking for a new monitor to go with my MBP, and I'm stuck trying to choose between the ones listed above.
The 2407WFP is a couple of years old now I guess, but it's the rev A04 version, which supposedly fixed the (few) problems with what was otherwise meant to be a great screen. It's an sPVA screen.
I've heard good reviews of the G2410, with its LED backlighting. It's still a TN panel and I hear so much bad stuff about them.
The 2209WA is an eIPS panel which I like the sound of, but it's smaller and lower resolution.
The F2380 is a cPVA panel, the image quality looks better but I've heard bad things about blacks on this panel.
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Apr 14, 2009
I'm getting ready to pull the trigger on a pair of SSD's.
Looking at the OCZ forums, it seems like there are a still a number of outstanding issues... random lockups out of sleep, no trim support, (therefore worse write performance on a loaded drive), and on and on...[URL]
Yet there's very little noise around the Intel drives (besides the late bootcamp issue). Is that because I'm just not looking in the right place or there simply is no outstanding issues with Intel's X-25M now?
Does anyone here have any more insights?
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Jan 5, 2011
I'm pretty satisfied with the Marware cover, although it can be a little frustrating when typing quickly..I'm wondering if I should go back, return the Marware cover and pick up the iSkin.
So, for those of you that have any of these in comparing..which do you think is the best?
And yes, I did search and am aware threads like this exist..but I couldn't find any comparing all three, only iSkin vs. Moshi.
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Apr 30, 2008
I'm trying to decide which product to buy and I was hoping for some advice.
First and foremost I want a device so that I may transfer my VHS tapes to DVD.
Live TV recording is secondary but for the price, I'd like to find the device that suits me best so I can continue to use it after i've transferred all my VHS.
Here are my concerns:
1) I'm going to be moving from the US to Ireland in a couple of months (not sure for how long, could be years+) Obviously there's the whole NTSC vs. PAL, ATSC vs. DVB.
I know with EyeTV 250 it's either or, any ideas if buying some sort of converter is an option (prices, quality)? If I bought just a PAL one, would I still be able to convert VHS or would it be completely unusable in the US?
2) I'd like some sort of HD/Digital abilities. From what I can tell TVMax is analog only and Blackmagic may also be but I can't find more specs on that.
Does this mean they'll be useless once the US undergoes the conversion?
So as of now I'm leaning towards EyeTV 250 but the question are there any forseeable problems with using a PAL to NTSC converter or using a PAL EyeTV in the US just to convert VHS.
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Apr 6, 2012
I have hooked up[ an m audio 2626 to my imac. drivers have been downloaded, followed all the steps. computer is not seeing a connection to the firewire port. When i connect to my macbook pro, no problem. How do I get a connection to the firewire on my imacÂ
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Oct 25, 2007
So I have a 1.8ghz dual G5 with 3gb of ram for work. I mainly work in Adobe CS and do a far amount of Photoshop work. At any given time I may have all of Adobe CS plus Office and a few other apps running -- and a gazillion fonts. Went to the store and saw the new 24" iMac. How would a new iMac compare to my late '04 1.8DP G5? On that same note, how would a new MacBook Pro compare to the above?
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Oct 25, 2009
I am planning on purchasing a new display for use (currently) with my imac. I am completely torn between these two models, and cannot make a decision. Any thoughts? I like the Dell because it is LED backlit, thus good blacks and little to no backlight bleed. But I like the Samsung because of the (supposedly better panel and (supposedly) better color reproduction. I like the simplistic look of both of them (though they could look a little better ) so I'm not sure which one to buy.
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Feb 16, 2009
I currently have my second MBP that I got from Macmall and both in a matter of two weeks have had similar issues. The first I managed to get returned and replaced, that is a seperate and complicated story in and of itself. This particular issue started with a boot up sequence that was taking about 5-6 mins. After going through the drill with Applecare thought I could restore using Time Machine. That's when I found out that the FW400 port no longer worked to power my Oyen Digital 250G FW drive. Any thoughts as to what might be the problem? This is my second MBP and Oyen Digital FW drive. I had them both replaced!
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Sep 20, 2010
Ok, im posting this because im sick and tired of people on here saying "Intel is the only way to go if you want speed"
Your info is like 18 months out of date.
Here are the benchmarks for both drives in RAID 0 config. which is 2 drives and nearly double the speed. if you want a single drive its roughly half the speed shown below.
Intel 160GB x2 and OCZ Vertex 2 120GB x2
Intel = Pwned
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Mar 28, 2010
I'm going to install either a 160GB Intel X25-M or 120GB OCZ Vertex in my 17'' 2.8Ghz MBP that I use for digital audio production and live performances. Any thoughts on which to choose?
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Oct 12, 2009
I just got a Mac Mini (March 2009 model) and want to connect it via Firewire to my Sony TRV-22 camcoder. The camcorder has a Mini DV Firewire jack on it (I think this is called a 4-pin connector sometimes too). But on the Mac Mini, I can't tell if I need a 6-pin or a 9-pin. Can someone point me to a good cable so I can dump some MiniDV tapes into iMovie?
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Feb 5, 2012
I am trying to transfer files applications data etc from an intel iMac i5 running OS X 10.6.8 to a Macbook Pro i7 running OS X 10.7.3 and having trouble with migration assistant. When I restart the iMac holding the T key it just opens to the usual desktop. If I start up holding the T key I get the grey screen with the firewire,thunderbold icon. Either way the Macbook does not seem to recognise the iMac in the migration assistant so I cannot proceed with file transfer. I have tried the above with different cables, just in case it was the cable.
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MacBookPro, Mac OS X (10.7.3), iMac i5 OS X 10.6.8
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Feb 25, 2012
Well I have the following task/issue. I have iMac and installed SamrtSleep 3rd party utility. It put my IMac in hibernate mode once system goes sleep. I have made for UPS setup so when power is off iMac will hibernate. The problem is I have several external hard drives - FireWire and USB. Anytime I wakeup after hibernate the USB drives is unplugged and plugged again (software mode) and it breaks everything (if any) what was busy with this external drive and Not Properly Ejected warning appear. For example I have image file on external USB mounted before sleep. After wakeup it's unmounted like if I will just switch hard disk off while running. However my FireWire works just fine the same way like internal hard drive. I have virtual machine image file on FireWire disk. I open and run it. Than go to hibernate and wakeup. The system stays same place where it was before sleep. Noting was unmounted/unplugged. I was able to continue work on Mac OS as well as in same place in virtual machine. First I was looking for help here and All Over The Google but all issues is around how to unmount all external drives before sleep. But I don't need to unmount them I need hibernate them together with all system. Also when wakeup my virtual machine notice me where to plug many USB devices (it always ask when new one is connected). It means when Mac OS wakeup from hibernate it "break" all USB connections however nothing happens with FireWire. My question so far if its possible to put USB in some mode when it will not "break" on wakeup? Or maybe any other solution to hibernate USB disks.
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iMac, Mac OS X (10.6.8)
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Feb 28, 2012
It WAS working. I'd bought an iomega fw drive with usb and fw800 ports. I hooked up the drive and it worked and then suddenly I got the message that a drive had been ejected improperly. The fw800 port never worked again -- with any drive or any cable. My apple care has run out. (I've tried these cables and drives on another computer.Â
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May 22, 2012
iMac has no firewire port ? Need to migrate files from my LaCie-mini external which has no usb port. Does a firewire/usb converter exist ?
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iMac, Mac OS X (10.7.2)
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Jun 17, 2012
Ive made an OS bootable super duper backup of my white intel imac (late 2006) 10.6.8 onto a WD My Book Studio 2TB (GUID partioned) and although the drive appears to be running fine from the OS its not being seen as a startup drive when connected via usb or firewire (with an 800 to 400 adapter) after holding down the option key at startup. I tested the startup drive capability on a newer imac running 10.7.4 and it shows up as a viable startup drive when holding option at boot up and plugged in via firewire.
why the older imac might not be picking up the drive at bootup with option key pressed?
Info:iMac, Mac OS X (10.6.8), WD My Book Studio 2TB
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Jun 24, 2012
After several attempts my firewire would not mount on the iMac desktop. After reading the forum, so I reset the PRAM and the SMC.Â
NOW, after rebooting the iMac after 3 or 5 minutes the external disk connect with a firewire 400 appear on the desktop with a spcial mention from my iMac " Could not repair the external disk !?Â
Even though the disc is NEW and formated on the same machine two hours early!
Specification of my MacÂ
Mac OS 10.7.4
iMac Mid 2007
2,4 Ghz Intel core 2 Duo
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iMac, Mac OS X (10.7.4)
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Jun 30, 2009
I ran some tests on my 2009 Quad Nehalem to try and determine what was up with the triple Vs dual memory "brouhaha".
I posted the results as a new thread because I think it will be useful information for a lot of quad owners, but it was originally going to be a reply to this thread: http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=735845
Here we go. Tesselator suggested 3 tests that could show the differences in speed between triple and dual channel bandwidth.
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As one idea I would maybe try creating a few very large images (16-bit, blank white, blank black, gradient fill) and then duplicating and deleting that layer repeatedly a few hundred times.
So I did them, 10 times each. I could have gone on, but the results were very very stable after the first 2 attempts.
Set-up: a 40Mpx, 16bit image (8000*5000). First test it was simply filled white; second test: black; and third test a black to white gradient. I added a fourth test, using a real (photo) 12Mpx RAW image from my Nikon D300.
I created (took a while!) an action with 350 repetitions of "duplicate layer" and "delete layer", followed by a red fill to let me know the action was done. The same action was used in all four tests.
The computer was restarted before each of the four tests, which may explain the irregularities on the first 1-2 attempts. Nothing else but PS4 was launched.
The results are interesting:
We can clearly see that the simple white and black fills show a speed difference of around 10%.
We can also clearly see that this difference disappears when a more complex image is used. The use of more complex images represents a much more realistical use of PS.
To make things even more realistic, I also tested RetouchActions's speed test on my own 12Mpx image. I use nearly all of the operations of that action on a daily basis, so it's a lot more representative of the work I do on PS.
Here are the results:
The results are clear: 11% increase in performance using 8GB of ram (Vs 6GB) when working on a 12Mpx image.
Added info: number of page-outs after running the 10 test series (after about 45 minutes of intense PS work):
-17K when using 6GB (1.7K page-out avg).
-10K when using 8GB (1K page-out avg).
For me the results are definitive: unless I plan on working only with full black or full white images (not even black and white!), having 8GB is better, even when working on smallish 12Mpx files. I imagine the differences would have been even greater using bigger file sizes of actual complex images.
What would now be interesting: someone with a 2009MP Octo doing the same tests at 12GB and 16GB.
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Sep 14, 2010
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AMD IGP is twice as fast in games.
In HTML 5.0 benchmark, AMD is 10 times faster.
Interesting to consider for the MBP 13 next year if the cpu is faster than the C2D.
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Jun 22, 2010
which is better and why?
I'm wondering because i currently have an hp laptop, and the only thing i am not satisfied with is my graphics performance.
i would like to upgrade to a macbook pro, but i don't want to buy the very expensive 15" model.
i use the graphics for GIMP mainly.
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Aug 30, 2010
can I boot from my HP iPod via firewire on a 2007 imac or an i7 MBP? in other words, do early iPods play nice w/ intel macs via firewire? the reason I ask is because I'm tempted by OWC's 40GB SSD sale and want to try SSD's without the risk that comes w/ surgery (save for the old iPod).
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Mar 14, 2012
I just got a 21.5 in. iMac and it's not recognizing my firewire audio interface. I have a 400 to 800 cable from the interface to the iMac and it's simply not picking it up.
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iMac
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Apr 30, 2012
Have late 2006 iMac 24'' and I can't boot from external FireWire drive. If I connect the same external drive via usb2 I can boot from it but it is slower than FireWire800 would be. The external drive is in i-tec 3.5 External Case.Â
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iMac, Mac OS X (10.7.3), iMac 24'' late 2006 intel DualCore2
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May 31, 2012
I'm tryin to transfer video from my Sony DV camera to my iMac, but neither iMovie not Adobe Premiere cannot recognise the device. They both automatically select my iSight camera as the one and only video source.Â
When I check the Firewire status in System Profiler I get the message: "Unable to list FireWire devices".Â
I have tired restarting the software, unplugging the camera, unplugging the firewire cable, restarting my Mac but still no result.Â
I spent a considerable amount of time Googling for solutions but have not come up with anything that helped. I have also tried unplugging all other USB devices, restarting the machine, trying again, but still the same issue.Â
The weird thing is that about a year ago I managed to capture video just fine from the camera into Premiere without any problems.Â
The only thing that is different now, is that I have Windoes XP installed on my Mac as well. Could this be an issue, with XP "stealing" my firewire connection in some manner? I'm not sure how this would be possible, but I suppose it could be...Â
My iMac is a 21.5" with an Intel Core 2 Duo 3.06GHz processor. 4GB DDR3 Ram and Mac OS X 10.6.8Â
iMovie is version 8.0.6 and Premiere is CS4. As I said, I had managed to capture video using the same equpiment about a year ago and the only difference now is that I also have a partition on my Mac with Windows XP (Service pack 3) on it.Â
Of course, the cable itself could be faulty, but since it hasn't been used in over a year, I doubt that's the issue. I still wanna try anything else, before I buy a new cable.Â
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iMac, Mac OS X (10.6.8), Intel Core 2 Duo 3.06GHz processor.
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Jun 15, 2012
I have just switched to a 2.8 GHz Quad-Core Intel Xeon Mac Pro and I have a Minolta slide scanner that is connected to the Mac by FireWire 400. Now this Mac no longer has a FireWire 400 connection, only FW 800. Is there a way to still use the scanner, some adapter maybe?
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Mac Pro, Mac OS X (10.7.4), 2.8 GHz Quad-Core Intel Xeon 16 Gig
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