Mac Pro :: Radeon 5870 Versus Quadro 4000
Nov 21, 2010
As I am waiting for Bare feats to have fun with the Quadro, some preliminary thoughts might be fun to think about.
- The Quadro 4000 is supported on the Mac Pro '08, the Radeon 5870 is not.
- X-Plane 9: the Radeon 5870 is not faster than the 4870 in the '08 Mac Pro. Maybe the Quadro 4000 will be faster?
- 2 GB VRAM on the Quadro... any chance gaming will benefit?
- Usually the "Pro-3D" card loses to good consumer 3D cards in gaming. Will this be true this time too?
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Aug 25, 2010
Can someone explain to me what the differences between these two graphics cards are? My main use will be with a 6-core Mac Pro and a 27" Apple Cinema Display. I'd like to watch Netflix/Huly Plus full screen. I will not be doing any video editing. I will be doing some audio editing and the basic Apple iLife applications.
What are the pros/cons of the 5770 vs the 5870? I know the 5870 uses more power and I've also heard it's louder.
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Dec 23, 2010
Display Port is not working, so i thought it may be a cable issue, tried the same cable and screen on a pc with a quadro 400 i have, and it works fine.
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May 19, 2012
NVIDIA Quadro 4000 for Mac support Apple Cinema 30" display?
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Mac Pro, Mac OS X (10.7.4)
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Dec 29, 2010
I have a 2010 Mac Pro currently using the 5870 graphics card to run a 22� monitor. However, I am going to add a second 27� screen to my setup. I do a lot of heavy 3d modelling so GPU power is very important. I spend hours and hours panning and zooming in dense models so I would like to dedicate the 5870 power to this, rather than it running dual monitors.
I have read that you could use a GT 120 to drive extra monitors but I�ve also heard really bad reviews for its performance, making it really painful to spend an extra �120 on it. The 5770 is �80 more and has a lot more power than a GT 120.
Is it viable to use PCI Express Y-splitters to run a 5770 and 5870 together? If so how would it work? What are the dangers in doing this?
I have done some research and apparently you can use PCI Express Y-splitters to run two high-end cards on the Mac Pro, though, I couldn�t find a lot of info on the subject. I�m not really computer literate but I�m willing to do some moderate internal tinkering in order to run two decent cards (which is really surprising for a Professional computer).
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Aug 19, 2010
Theres 2X 5770 but not for the 5870 -- is it b/c of the power draw requirements?
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Aug 26, 2010
I borrowed a used 2006 Mac Pro from [URL[. I installed the Radeon HD 5870 from our Westmere 6-core along with its boot drive. It booted up the first time no problemo. I tried the Mini DisplayPorts with and without the MDP to DVI adapter. Works fine. Right now I'm running game benchmarks on a 24" LED Cinema display plugged directly into the MDP. OWC techies have the 5770 running in their 2006 Mac Pro but could not get the 5870 to boot -- black screen. They are investigating what's different about their 2006 from the one I'm using.
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Dec 8, 2010
I've been considering buying one of the new Radeon video card kits and throwing it in my 2006 Mac Pro. I would prefer the 5870 but for the most part, the opinion online is that it wouldn't work. However, I came across this link: [URL:...] So what gives? How did barefeats pull it off? Could it have been using the boot drive really played such a role? I kept reading it couldn't be done due to the lack of EFI64.
Model Name:Mac Pro
Model Identifier:MacPro1,1
Processor Name:Dual-Core Intel Xeon
Processor Speed:3 GHz
Number Of Processors:2
Total Number Of Cores:4
L2 Cache (per processor):4 MB
Memory:4 GB
Bus Speed:1.33 GHz
Boot ROM Version:MP11.005C.B08
SMC Version (system):1.7f10
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Aug 27, 2010
seeing as there's at least 3 threads on this topic, and I've been posting in all of them, I figured I'd create this thread to help consolidate the info we know so far. Please note, this is for *OFFICIAL* Apple Radeon 5770/5870 cards, NOT flashed cards. I'll also try to keep it updated with more info as it comes in. Also, feel free to chime in if something is wrong.
- 5870 and 5770 work with no some issues in 2009 and 2008 Mac Pro's
- UPDATE: Weepul pointed out that Rob-ART from Barefeats had some trouble with a 30" Cinema Display and a MDP --> dual link DVI adapter on 2008/09/10 models, though he thinks this may be due to a bad adapter
- UPDATE 2: Rob-ART says OWC got a 30" working on MDP of 5870. (post)- UPDATE 3: grey17 says the 5770 works in 2009 Mac Pro (link)- 5870 and 5770 work in SOME 2006 Mac Pro's:
- Rob-ART from Barefeats says it works.
- OWC says the 5770 only works with DVI works flawlessly on 2006/2007 (MDP and DVI) (post) (confirmed by netkas), and the 5870 doesn't work at all. (link).......
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Jun 7, 2009
I only use my Mac Pro for Final Cut Studio not gaming.
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Nov 3, 2010
I don't play games. Would this card give a noticeable speed improvement vs the slow stock Geforce GT 120?
Apple claims this card is 5 times faster.
I use Photoshop and do a lot of video-editing.
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Mar 3, 2009
I'm going to be ordering my new iMac within the next couple days but need a little advice first.
Obviously, the 4850 is more powerful, but if these two cards had the exact same specs, would ATI or nVidia be the better choice?
Which company is Apple leaning towards, which company produces better Mac drivers, how will OpenCL play into this, etc.
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Nov 4, 2010
Will I see an improvement in the finder and for daily use (I don't play games) if I replace the Geforce GT120 by the new ATI Radeon 5770 or 5870? I do video editing with iMovie and I often use Photoshop.
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Jun 28, 2008
I've been at this all nite and I am fed up. Can someone please tell me how I can print a panoramic print on roll paper using CS2 on a MAC (so please now windows advice) using an epson pro 4000? I constantly get the message that the wrong paper source is selected. Roll paper is fed into the printer, I select A2 roll paper (any of the A2 roll paper options), or I try a custom paper size (42x120 cm) on page setup. For paper I select velvet fine art paper (I don't really know what kind of paper it is to be honest), because that will select the rear feed. Unless I am mistaken (quite possible) the rear feed is used by roll paper.This does not work. I tried setting to A2, but then I get only an A2 size part of my print, and still it won't print anyway with the same annoying message. I don't have these problems with my R1800. With the R1800 I just select roll paper and everything automatically prints perfect, but not the pro 4000, can someone please explain to me what settings I have to use in page setup of CS2 and what settings I have to use in the printer driver of the pro 4000 printer ?
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Jul 1, 2012
My shiny new Macbook Pro has already had a logicboard (Mac-ish for motherboard) replaced due to this. Games (tested Battlefield Bad Company 2 and GTA IV) crash within a few minutes with the screen freezing and showing random colors as the sound starts stuttering and the only solution is to do a hard restart - see image below. GTA IV tells me that it only recognizes 60 MB VRAM so I guess that the problem is with the graphic card not being able to use the computers onbard RAM (8 GB Corsair Vengeance). The RAM doesn't fail any tests and the computer works like a charm in OSX for days on end, even with heavy Lightroom/Photoshop use. Drivers are up to date.
Info:
MacBook Pro (13-inch, Mid 2012), Mac OS X (10.7.4), Intel HD 4000
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Jun 20, 2012
Is there a plan to release a print driver for the FujiFilm ASK-4000 Dye Sub printer?The current driver worked well with OS 10.6; but as my Mac Pro took on updates I began to experience issues printing.The thought of restraining my Mac Pro is absurd.
Info:
Mac OS X (10.6.8)
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Nov 2, 2009
I'm looking for a new monitor to go with my MBP, and I'm stuck trying to choose between the ones listed above.
The 2407WFP is a couple of years old now I guess, but it's the rev A04 version, which supposedly fixed the (few) problems with what was otherwise meant to be a great screen. It's an sPVA screen.
I've heard good reviews of the G2410, with its LED backlighting. It's still a TN panel and I hear so much bad stuff about them.
The 2209WA is an eIPS panel which I like the sound of, but it's smaller and lower resolution.
The F2380 is a cPVA panel, the image quality looks better but I've heard bad things about blacks on this panel.
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Mar 8, 2009
Can I mount a normal PNY quadro fx 4500 (pc version) on new Mac Pro??
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Jun 24, 2009
I just got a PNY Quadro FX 4500 x2. I know some people has talked about Quadro FX 4500 before but after I got this card, I know it is different from single Quadro FX 4500 because it is two FX 4500 strap together, please refer to the product link here (URL)
I am currently using PC running Mac OSX 10.5.6 (iDeneb) and I think I probably need to flash this card before put into my computer. When I tried to use nvflash (the latest version) to flash the rom, I can back up two roms and it ask me two times when I used "nvflash -b" to back up each rom (rom 0 and 1). However, I can not put the fix rom back to my card. When I use "nvflash -4 -5 -6 -j" command. I know this must has something to do since my card has two roms.........but it is really beyond my knowledge and I don't know how to do it, when I tried to put the fix rom back to my card, it showed the error message below:
Checking for matches between display adapter(s) and image(s)......
Adapter: Quadro FX 4500x2 (10DE, 029F, 10DE, 0357) H:09:SP0 B:0A, PCI, D:00, F:00
Overriding PCI subsystem ID mismatch
Adapter: Quadro FX 4500x2 (10DE, 029F, 10DE, 0357) H:09:SP1 B:0B, PCI, D:00, F:00
Overriding PCI subsystem ID mismatch
No matches found
I think besides the flash rom problem, I also believe that I probably need someone help me to fix my original rom because the fixed rom I downloaded is not for FX 4500 x2, I couldn't find any fixed rom for FX 4500 x2, only FX 4500. Here I attach the original rom I back up from my card and hope some people can help me to look at it. Somehow I also think I might need to change my GFX string or something like that.
Again, this is just the problems I have found from now. After two weeks trying to search everything in the web I am very frustrating because it is hard to find people who use the same card like me. I am just a visual effects animator and I think some parts of flashing this card has gone beyond my knowledge. I know many people and genius here will know what's going on immediately and be able to help me out.
Here is my computer hardware configuration:
Motherboard: TYAN Tempest i5000XT (S2696)
CPU: Intel Xeon e5345 quadcore x 2
RAM: 6G ECC RAM
Sound Card: Sound Blaster Audigy 2 zs
Graphic Card: PNY nVidia FX 4500 x 2 1G
OS: Leopard 10.5.6
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Mar 3, 2008
It was slightly faster than than the GeForce 8800 GT running our six 3D accelerated games.
In another session, we performed a RAM Preview render on 15 Motion 3 templates. The Quadro FX 5600 (and GeForce 8800 GT) were slower than the Radeon HD 2600 XT in 14 out of 15 tests. The Radeon X1900 XT beat the nVidia cards rendering all 15 templates.
Tomorrow we will post results on our Windows Vista 64 tests (Prey, Doom 3, 3DMark06, etc.). As a preview, the Quadro was faster than the Radeon HD 2600 XT but slower than the GeForce 8800 GT running Prey and Doom 3. In the 3DMark06 benchmark the Quadro was faster than the GeForce 8800 GT.
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Mar 18, 2008
I have a friend who's dell died that has a Quadro FX 4500 in it and he is willing to offer it to me for free. I figure it is better then my 7300 I have now and might hold me over until Apple releases the 8800 for last gen Mac Pros.
The only snag in this is I have to find the Mac Pro firmware so I can put it on this card and hopefully use it.
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Apr 16, 2009
Is it still possible to get the NVidia Quadro FX 5600 1.5GB, for the Mac Pro, I bought my Mac Pro in 2008, and wondering if it's still available for Mac?
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Oct 28, 2009
seller said it's brandnew and a Mac version. I installed and followed their guide. When I turn MacPro on, immediately the sound "Beepp" is so loud and continute, it scared me then I turn it off. So what happened? Does the card have problem? Or my Mac? Is there any way to solve this? I've save money for long to buy the card.
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Nov 28, 2009
I do a lot of 3D work which is why I plan on purchasing said card, but wanted to ask: How does it fair for playing games? Not that I care, but I am just curious since nobody I find tests it for anything but 3D Software.
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Aug 13, 2009
Is the NVIDIA Quadro FX 4500 a good video card for Pro use... Desktop Publishing (Quark 8 + Adobe Creative Suite), Web Design, iMovie Vid production...??
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May 27, 2009
I'm wondering what the difference between the NVidia Quadro FX 4800 1.5GB - [URL] found here, (from OWC), or the NVidia Quadro FX 5600 1.5GB?
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Jul 10, 2009
NVIDIA has released a critical Mac OS X driver update for the GeForce GTX 285 and Quadro FX 4800. It is recommended that the new drivers be installed immediately. Users must install the new drivers PRIOR to the next Mac OS X update after 10.5.7 in order to avoid system compatibility issues. The driver update is needed to prevent Mac OS X system issues and will affect users who plan to update to the next Mac OS X update after 10.5.7. Built into this driver is also improved graphics performance for both the GeForce GTX 285 and Quadro FX 4800. The latest NVIDIA GeForce GTX 285 drivers are located at: [URL]. The latest NVIDIA Quadro FX 4800 drivers are located at: [URL]
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Apr 4, 2012
I've pulled every card out of my system and tested one by one and whenever I have the Quadro4800 card in the MacPro I get a 4VDC/Video controller error in the apple hardware test. I'm using the card as a GPU only in a Davinci Resolve environment. Is this normal?
Info:
Mac Pro, Mac OS X (10.7.3)
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