Mac Pro :: Radeon 5870 In 2006 Model?
Dec 8, 2010
I've been considering buying one of the new Radeon video card kits and throwing it in my 2006 Mac Pro. I would prefer the 5870 but for the most part, the opinion online is that it wouldn't work. However, I came across this link: [URL:...] So what gives? How did barefeats pull it off? Could it have been using the boot drive really played such a role? I kept reading it couldn't be done due to the lack of EFI64.
Model Name:Mac Pro
Model Identifier:MacPro1,1
Processor Name:Dual-Core Intel Xeon
Processor Speed:3 GHz
Number Of Processors:2
Total Number Of Cores:4
L2 Cache (per processor):4 MB
Memory:4 GB
Bus Speed:1.33 GHz
Boot ROM Version:MP11.005C.B08
SMC Version (system):1.7f10
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Aug 27, 2010
seeing as there's at least 3 threads on this topic, and I've been posting in all of them, I figured I'd create this thread to help consolidate the info we know so far. Please note, this is for *OFFICIAL* Apple Radeon 5770/5870 cards, NOT flashed cards. I'll also try to keep it updated with more info as it comes in. Also, feel free to chime in if something is wrong.
- 5870 and 5770 work with no some issues in 2009 and 2008 Mac Pro's
- UPDATE: Weepul pointed out that Rob-ART from Barefeats had some trouble with a 30" Cinema Display and a MDP --> dual link DVI adapter on 2008/09/10 models, though he thinks this may be due to a bad adapter
- UPDATE 2: Rob-ART says OWC got a 30" working on MDP of 5870. (post)- UPDATE 3: grey17 says the 5770 works in 2009 Mac Pro (link)- 5870 and 5770 work in SOME 2006 Mac Pro's:
- Rob-ART from Barefeats says it works.
- OWC says the 5770 only works with DVI works flawlessly on 2006/2007 (MDP and DVI) (post) (confirmed by netkas), and the 5870 doesn't work at all. (link).......
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Jul 29, 2009
I bought HIS Radeon HD4870 512MB DDR5 for my Mac Pro 2006 1.1. The first problem I've found it that card will not fit to slot 1, because of too long screws. So I installed it in slot 2, leaving 7300GT in slot 1. The next problem was how to get rid of these power cables - I've tried the more elegant way taking that molex adapter under HDD trays, but cables where too short So I installed them on the right of Superdrive's tray. Now on Mac OS X I got kernel panic (probably the injector thing). On Windows Vista card is detected, but automatically disabled (probably not enough power or just PCI-EX 1x slot is not compatible). Here are photos from the operation. I'll try to install Accelero S1 rev. 2 with Noctua 120 mm fan and will see how things go I've also ordered two special Apple PCI-EX power connectors from Austria.
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Dec 29, 2010
I have a 2010 Mac Pro currently using the 5870 graphics card to run a 22� monitor. However, I am going to add a second 27� screen to my setup. I do a lot of heavy 3d modelling so GPU power is very important. I spend hours and hours panning and zooming in dense models so I would like to dedicate the 5870 power to this, rather than it running dual monitors.
I have read that you could use a GT 120 to drive extra monitors but I�ve also heard really bad reviews for its performance, making it really painful to spend an extra �120 on it. The 5770 is �80 more and has a lot more power than a GT 120.
Is it viable to use PCI Express Y-splitters to run a 5770 and 5870 together? If so how would it work? What are the dangers in doing this?
I have done some research and apparently you can use PCI Express Y-splitters to run two high-end cards on the Mac Pro, though, I couldn�t find a lot of info on the subject. I�m not really computer literate but I�m willing to do some moderate internal tinkering in order to run two decent cards (which is really surprising for a Professional computer).
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Aug 19, 2010
Theres 2X 5770 but not for the 5870 -- is it b/c of the power draw requirements?
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Aug 25, 2010
Can someone explain to me what the differences between these two graphics cards are? My main use will be with a 6-core Mac Pro and a 27" Apple Cinema Display. I'd like to watch Netflix/Huly Plus full screen. I will not be doing any video editing. I will be doing some audio editing and the basic Apple iLife applications.
What are the pros/cons of the 5770 vs the 5870? I know the 5870 uses more power and I've also heard it's louder.
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Aug 26, 2010
I borrowed a used 2006 Mac Pro from [URL[. I installed the Radeon HD 5870 from our Westmere 6-core along with its boot drive. It booted up the first time no problemo. I tried the Mini DisplayPorts with and without the MDP to DVI adapter. Works fine. Right now I'm running game benchmarks on a 24" LED Cinema display plugged directly into the MDP. OWC techies have the 5770 running in their 2006 Mac Pro but could not get the 5870 to boot -- black screen. They are investigating what's different about their 2006 from the one I'm using.
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Nov 21, 2010
As I am waiting for Bare feats to have fun with the Quadro, some preliminary thoughts might be fun to think about.
- The Quadro 4000 is supported on the Mac Pro '08, the Radeon 5870 is not.
- X-Plane 9: the Radeon 5870 is not faster than the 4870 in the '08 Mac Pro. Maybe the Quadro 4000 will be faster?
- 2 GB VRAM on the Quadro... any chance gaming will benefit?
- Usually the "Pro-3D" card loses to good consumer 3D cards in gaming. Will this be true this time too?
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Mar 1, 2010
which XFX model seems to be the best choice for flashing?Mac Mall has this one reasonableXFX RADEON HD 4890 1.0 GB DDR5MacMall Part #: 7933692 Mfr. Part #: HD489XZSFAre there any cards which fit better then others ?
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Jun 11, 2009
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I don't want to drop $999 on the thing, as that's what an equivalent of what I was using go for. However I want my battery to last more than oh, 30s so I hope to size it right.
Any experience from anyone running a UPS on one of these things? The UPS sites aren't much help and if the tech specs are to believed if it draws 12A at 120W that's a 1440W requirement for the power supply, and that seems a tiny bit high to me, but I might be wrong.
I'm running the 2.66GHz dual core, the ATI1900XL, and 4 500GB drives in it.
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Jul 25, 2009
I have a 2006 Mac Pro with 7300GT and I'm thinking about upgrading the video card since Photoshop takes advantage of GPU and Lightroom will also in not too distant future. The system is still fast for my needs so all I want is a GPU upgrade What are my options?
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Jan 22, 2010
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Mar 19, 2010
Just wondering what else, if anything else, I can upgrade on my system.I have an original 2006 launch model (2 x 2.66 Ghz Dual Core Xeon, 8GB 667 DDR2 RAM from Crucial, 4 x 1TB Western Digital RE3 7200RPM drives w/ 32MB Cache in a Software RAID)However, I still have the original NVIDIA GeForce 7300 GT card in here and I've never been super-impressed nor disappointed.Should I replace it? I do mostly graphics work in Photoshop and writing code as a web-developer but I do occasional gaming so I'd see a benefit there.. I'm just wondering if it'd boost performance in the OS. Honestly, the computer runs fine... I would never replace it unless it had an issue. I'm just thinking about the future.
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Mar 26, 2012
I can not figure out how to connect the power on the cinema display. It looks like it would plug into the back of the mini where the macmini would normally plug the power in. Not sure if I am missing something. I also do not know if I need to plug all 4 connections the video, usb, hdmi, and iguess what is the power plug in or just certain plugs.
Info:
Mac mini, Mac OS X (10.6.8), 2006 model
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Aug 3, 2009
Just curious as to how much of an improvement in performance I would see upgrading my system as it states above, since my 2006 machine is 3 years old and getting close to the end of my apple care, figured I would trade it in and upgrade.
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Jun 21, 2012
Does anybody know if a early 2006 model macbook can install iLife '09 or iLife '11? I just got my hard drive replaced and was able to upgrade from Tiger to Snow Leopard (I'm a little behind the times). I look at the requirements for iLife, and I think I'm good on everything. This is what I found for the requirements:
System Requirements for iLife '09 Mac OS X v10.5.6 Leopard or laterMac computer with an Intel, PowerPC G5, or PowerPC G4 (867MHz or faster) processor.; iMovie req uires an Intel-based Mac, Power Mac G5 (dual 2.0GHz or faster), or iMac G5 (1.9GHz or faster); GarageBand Learn to Play requires an Intel-based Mac with a dual-core processor or better.
512MB of RAM; 1GB recommended.
High-definition video requires at least 1GB of RAM.Approximately 4GB of available disk space.
DVD drive required for installation.
QuickTime 7.5.5 or later (included).AVCHD video requires a Mac with an Intel-based Core Duo processor or better.24-bit recording in GarageBand requires a Mac OS X compatible audio interface with support for 24-bit audio.
Please consult the owners manual or manufacturer directly for audio device specification and compatibility.
Burning DVDs requires an Apple SuperDrive or compatible third-party DVD burner.
Some features require Internet access and/or MobileMe; additional fees and terms apply.
System Requirements for iLife '11
Software Mac OS X v10.6.3 or later.
Hardware Mac computer with an Intel processor.GarageBand Learn to Play requires a Mac with an Intel Core Duo processor or better.AVCHD video from supported video cameras requires a Mac with an Intel Core Duo processor or better. Visit the iMovie ’11 Supported Cameras page for additional details.1GB of RAM.Approximately 5GB of available disk space.DVD drive required for installation. Burning DVDs requires an Apple SuperDrive or compatible third-party DVD burner.Display with at least 1280 x 768 pixel resolution.24-bit recording in GarageBand requires a Mac OS X-compatible audio interface with support for 24-bit audio. Please consult the owner’s manual or manufacturer directly for audio device specifications and compatibility.
Other Requirements Some features and third-party services require Internet access and/or MobileMe; additional fees and terms apply. MobileMe is available to persons age 13 and older. Annual subscription fee and Internet access required. Terms of service apply.iPhoto Print Products are available in the U.S., Canada, Japan, and select countries in Europe and Asia Pacific.GarageBand Artist Lessons are sold separately and are available directly through the GarageBand Lesson Store in select countries.Third-party services may not be available in all languages or in all countries. Use of these services requires Internet access and may require you to accept additional terms.
I have OS X v10.6.8, with 1 GB 533 Mhz DDR2 SDRAM, 2GHz processor speed with 1 processor, 2 cores, 667MHz Bus speed, 2 MB L2 Cache. I don't know where to look to find the information about the 24-bit audio. I clicked on the System Profiler and looked at audio, but it didn't say anything about it. If there is anyone that can answer this question,
Info:
MacBook, Mac OS X (10.6.8)
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I am about to buy a computer and just been doing some research. When I went to best buy and ran a geekbench score on the imac it was like around 5800.
A seller on ebay who is selling a Mac Pro 3.0 ghz just ran the score and posted the results of 6214
[URL]
Based off of this score alone wouldn't it mean that the 2007 Mac Pro is faster than the newer 2010 imac
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Oct 31, 2010
I am trying to decide whether to get the 2010 model or the cheaper 2009 model. These are the differences that I've found so far for the base model. For arguments sake, let's say they both have 4gb ram (most people selling them have upgraded to 4gb)
2010: 2.4ghz, longer battery, nvidia 320m
2009: 2.26ghz, (slightly) shorter battery, nvidia 9400m
Having a slightly slower cpu, less battery life (about 7 hours rather than 9) and a slightly weaker gpu don't bother me so much, as I will be mostly using the macbook pro for internet surfing and writing word documents
My question is, are there any other differences? (that would make me go for the 2010 rather than the 2009 model) - maybe differences in the display? shape? something else?
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Nov 2, 2010
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Jan 14, 2009
is the model MB321LLA for Airport Express the newest model which is current selling at Apple?
because I saw some sellers selling this model and I wanna get it but when I check Apple.com, I don't see the the newest model number they are currently selling
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Aug 28, 2009
PC World (in the UK) are selling the old 2.66GHz 15" model for �1,149 (rather than �1,499 for the new model).
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Battery: Old: 5hr, New:7hr non-swappable
Display: New: Better colour gamut (apparently?)
Processor: Old: 6MB cache, New: 3MB cache
Card bay: Old: Express34, New: SD
Of the above only the battery life is of any relevance to me (unless the display quality is really that different?). The SD card would be marginally more useful than the Express card.
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Sep 9, 2009
I've been contemplating recently (as most mac users do) about switching my 2 year old MBP (2.2 ghz, 2gb ram, 8600m) to the new MBP (15" 2.8, newer gfx, touchpad and a few minor details).
I've been eying the ebay prices for some time and my particular model (with charger, snow leopard, original accessories but w/o box) is valued at about 700gbp. Perhaps people might disagree with me here - how much is it really worth ?
My main point / question is really at what point should I ditch the existing MBP in favor of the new mbp - does it really offer me that much of a benefit at this time to upgrade? I'd sure like the new graphics card in there (is it really that much better?) but I'm not sure there's a significant enough difference there.
On the other hand if I wait much longer the MBP will become pretty devalued and not get me much back for the new and improved MBP - maybe apple's going to improve them soon anyway?
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Jul 29, 2010
I am trying to decide which of these two 27 inch imacs I should buy:
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Nov 28, 2010
I was what kind of FPS do you get in WoW with mac pro 5.1 and 5870 - what wow settings, resolution and how many monitors (size).
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Jan 13, 2011
i have a 2008 mac pro 2xQuad 2.8 GHz 4GB RAM
I just upgraded from nvidia 285 to ati 5870. The FPS in Starcraft 2
did not go up. Its almost exactly the same.
I was suprised so i check the CPU usage.Its at 115% (of 800, 100 per core)
spred out over the cores. So the CPU doesnt seem to be the problem.There are over 1 GB free of RAM,little disk and network usage.
I run 10.6.6 it was just reinstalled before the upgrade.
No other download avalible.i tried reinstalling SC2, same.
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Jul 27, 2010
I have a GTX 285 currently... I'm thinking of getting the new 27"... Would the new card be an upgrade?
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Jul 28, 2010
anyone think this is possible? I'd check the specs of the card myself but they haven't listed it in the store yet afaik. I'd really like to pick one up, no doubt it'll out perform my GTX 285.
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Aug 10, 2010
I'm wondering if anyone has taken the plunge and tried the 5870 or 5770 in an 08 Mac Pro? I know it's early, but I thought I'd ask anyway, I am eagerly awaiting the answer!
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Dec 11, 2010
I need a BIN/ROM for a Saphire 5870 so I can make the card work with a Mac.
Basically, I need it too boot with EFI.
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Dec 28, 2010
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This is the 06 MP. It has the 667 mhz ram . Can it handle the ati radeon 5870 1 ghz video card? I can get this MP for $899 on z boxing day sale. I would get it if I know I can upgrade the card
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