PowerPC :: G4 Startup And Big Fan Problems?
Nov 21, 2010
I have a G4MDD that has start up issues.
When I push the start up button, nothing happens. If I pull the power plug then reconnect it, the computer will start using the start up button on the front, but I noticed the start up chime is different (like older G4's) and the big fan doesn't start. Also icons in the dock don't bounce. If I then restart using the apple menu, the normal chime comes on, icons react normally, but the big fan still doesn't work.
Just had the big fan replaced so I wondering if I have bigger issues lurking.
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Apr 5, 2007
My brother's iBook G4 (I think it's a 2003 model) has a problem with the screen. When the computer is turned on, the screen stays black, although the backlight is on (the apple glows). Sometimes, on start up, the screen works normally for a random amount of time before going fuzzy and then black again.
Any ideas on how to fix this? Is it likely to be a problem with the hardware in the actual computer, or just the screen? Or is it a software thing?
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Dec 30, 2010
I recently reinstalled a clean Tiger on my old MDD G4 with the intent on giving it to a friend of mine in Oregon. Everything was smooth here in Los Angeles. Got the OS on and running sweet... 10.4.11 combo update... all's well.
I drive up to Oregon, set it up in his office using his old CRT monitor and power it on. It chimes and manages to find the Tech Tool eDrive recovery partition, but not the OS on the boot drive. Then, seconds later, screen of death/kernel panic and no boots or startup chimes thereafter.
Steps I've taken:
I have reset the PMU
I have removed all peripherals, including viddy, SATA adapter and all but on stick of RAM
Tried every stick of RAM by itself
No startup chime -- just a fan for a few seconds then a super fan kicks in... no signal to monitor at all.
Strange symptom: at times power was making it to the drives, and other times not. (determined by me putting my hand on the drive to feel its vibration or lack thereof during boot).
Do I need a new PSU? And if so where to buy?
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Dual 867 MDD G4
SATA adapter/w 300GB Tiger boot drive and 200GB data drive (w/ Panther still installed)
120GB data drive on IDE 66 bus w/Tech Tool recovery / restore partition
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when I press the power-on button of my G3 iBook (600MHz, dual USB), its taken a few presses to get it going. Now I can't get the laptop going at all!
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When i turn on my G4 i get past the grey apple screen,then when it gets to the startup screen(blue background with the white box with Mac OS X written and the progress meter bar below), the meter bar fills up slowly then when full, it just stays on that screen with the meter still full(with the usual flowing blue bar style).
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Mar 8, 2008
I have an iBook g3 running Tiger that I bought second hand almost two years ago that has been working perfectly up until yesterday. I use it for uni during the day and usually turn the machine off overnight while it charges. The other night I left it 'asleep' while charging instead of off. When I came to use it in the morning it would not wake up and was totally silent although it's pulsing 'on' light in the front part of the casing was on. The charging cable was still connected and was green, indicating a full charge, but the battery-life light display, when pressed, showed only a single light, which flashds a few times, indicating the battery wasn't fully charged.
While trying to get the thing to do something I removed the battery. This caused the ibook to turn off the pulsating light - it was completely off and apparently not drawing power from it's adapter, which was still plugged in. I have been trying since then to get the computer to turn on. No matter how long it is left charging, the battery never indicates anything other than a single light with a few flashes, the computer will not turn on and the cable of the charger stays green when plugged in. I have tried inserting an older battery - which I know worked, it just only used to hold an hour's charge or so - and it will not charge at all. I have also tried resetting the PMU, which appears to have done nothing
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my G4 quicksilver has resently decided that it doesnt want to work. when i press the power button the light and fans come on but then cut out again after about a second. any ideas?
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Jul 13, 2008
I have a dual 2ghz G5 and today when i started it up, it took over 45 minutes to get my home screen. I reset it and it still takes 45 minutes to turn on. A few months ago i replaced both internal hdd's to 500gb and it has 2x1gb of ram. Its running Tiger and i would not like to update to leopard because i need os9 support.What could be causing the slow startup?
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Jul 14, 2008
My Power Mac (2x2GHz G5, Late 2005 model) is acting strange since a couple of days when I want to start it up. When I press the power button the white light comes on for a short time and goes off again. When I press again and hold the button the white and the red light come on, usually also the startup chime sounds, and then the lights go off again. When I repeat the action the computer eventually starts and boots normally and then works normally. Sometimes it works already the second time, sometimes I have to try more times.
Does anybody here know or have an idea what this might be and wether I can repair it myself?
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Aug 21, 2008
My computer crashed today and hasn't been able to boot back up since. It gets to the grey screen with the Apple logo and stops. The fan then ramps itself up to overdrive.
I've started it up in target disk mode and repaired it using Diskwarrior on my macbook. It had to repair quite a bit and then it showed up on the desktop of the laptop. I can read, write and pull from it. I then ejected the powermac and started it up again to find the same problem persisting.
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Dec 23, 2008
I have an old Titanium Powerbook that wont startup. I haven't used it in about a year.
I've tried keeping it on charge for a day with and without the main battery inserted (which was knackered before I stopped using it anyway).
Any thoughts on what could be wrong with it? An internal battery problem?
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Feb 2, 2009
I got a powerbook G4 with a smashed LCD. I hooked it up to an external monitor, and 1 thing keeps bothering me - it lags like hell. I have had an iBook g3, now using macbook aluminum, and I have never seen anything like this on a mac before. It lags like hell - it turns on in about 20 minutes. Sometimes it even doesn't. I have tried resetting Pram, Vram, premissions repair, looking @ activity monitor(nothing exceeding 2-3%). HDD capacity - about 55% full. I cant even describe whats up with it - launching any app takes about 2-3 minutes. For instance, iTunes launching takes 3,5 minutes and none of the songs are playable. I have tried to create a new account - did not help.
So lets start with system preferences. I have :
1,5ghz PowerPC processor
256mb Ram
Tiger 10.4.11
HDD 80gb Fujitsu MHT2080AT
So at first I though it was the lack of RAM - I bought a 1Gb stick. Now I am thinking it is because of the HDD. But I am not ready to buy another component randomly.
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Aug 22, 2009
I've got a 1st generation iMac G5 (I think, from 2004) running 10.4.x that has become 'the family' computer since I upgraded this past winter. I haven't been keeping up with updates and decided about 3 weeks ago to finally go through and update everything; had been at least 4 mo.s since the last update and udates included Java Script, iTunes and a Security Update. I started downloading the updates then quit Safari (which had previously been running) walked away to do other things around the house (since it would take a while) and when I came back I had an error message that the logout (to restart - which was required for the Security Update) had timed out because Safari would/could not quit. I clicked OK, force quit Safari and shut down the computer (since no one was going to be using it for the rest of the day and a restart was required anyway).
Came back the next day to startup the computer and it just hung at the blue screen with the mouse arrow. Assuming there was something wrong with the update that was just installed OR the startup disk I reset the PRAM/NVRAM: no change. Tried starting in safe mode: wouldn't (and still won't) move past the blue screen with spinning gear. Tried to boot from install disc to repair the HDD with Disk Utility: Couldn't repair the disk volume (Invalid leaf record count: should be 13 was 1203). Tried single user fsck: scanned twice and reported volume repaired, went to restart - still hangs, tried to boot in safe mode again - still hangs at blue screen with spinning gear. And that's where I'm at now. Anyone got any good other ideas out there? I've searched a lot and haven't found anything I haven't tried. I'm guessing the installed update(s) never completely installed and screwed something up on the startup disk. But I can't access ANYTHING to figure out if that was the problem. I would really like to keep this computer for the kids but don't want to spend any money on it if I can avoid it.
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I recently acquired an eMac that was said to be working, but when I try to start it up, all I get is a beep or two, and nothing further. The machine is (I was told, I haven't been able to verify due to startup issues) OSX 10.4, 1.25 GHz. I put 256 mb RAM in, and I know that particular RAM stick works, b/c I used it successfully in my other 700 mhz eMac.
Shouldn't the machine start up without beeps once the RAM is in? I can't even get to the startup chime, so I can't do safe mode, FTM, or anything... When I push the power button, I hear the CRT firing up (but no picture displays), the fan comes on, and the white light on front comes on. After a few seconds, the machine beeps, and does nothing further... just that little white light mocking me.
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Jun 15, 2010
i recently bought a secondhand mac g4/400 and ive been trying to startup to install tiger (am using a macbook pro for work). i tried both of the ultra ata 'bays' but am wondering whether normal IDE drives will work?
i have:
1X western digital (caviar) enhanced IDE drive and
1X seagate normal IDE drive (ST340015A)
the cd-rom works fine on its own and can boot up with panther install discs but when selecting startup disc there is nothing. I connected the cdrom to the far end of the cable (set jumper to master) and WD E-IDE drive to the second 'block' (set as slave)
i am under the assumption that because the cdrom works there is nothing wrong with the cables.
on boot up I cant select the startup drive (just network) as there is only one device detected (CDROM) if harddrives are disconnected
I get the network folder first on boot up then question mark/folder icon
not quite sure how to proceed from here. is formatting a must for the normal IDE drive? or will the mac pick it up regardless.
I connected both drives to existing cables and the normal IDE drive also to IDE (PC) cable also reset the PMU/SMU as well as took out all daughterboards and tested RAM which appears to be ok. i also took out the battery and put it back.
the PSU seems fine, but is there a way i can check with diagnostics or something..
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Jun 19, 2010
So I bought a "new" PowerMac G4. I have two already.
The guy said it was running os 9 but now it wouldn't boot. I figured it needed an OS and the guy was wrong. I try to boot it up...
flashing ? folder
So I go thru all hell trying to install os x and what not.
It won't boot to the install CD. I finally got it to boot from my other Powermac's HD with OS X on it, but I can't seem to install OS X on this other HD, but that's not really what I'm asking here...
When I startup the PM and hold Option, nothing happens with either HD installed!!! No boot menu comes up.
Also when I hold down C, nothing happens at least nothing different. It doesn't boot to the CD.
Why is this?
Sometimes it seems to boot to my HD OS X and sometimes it boots to the CD on it's own. I can't choose what I want it to boot to unless I start the OS X and select it from there.
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Sep 1, 2010
I cannot get the Classic environment to not automatically start when either I restart or turn on my PowerBook.
I've had this problem ever since someone needed to use my computer with a program that was for a prior operating system, once we found out that the only way for it to work on my Mac would be to wipe my current operating system and revert back to the Classic operating system, which of course at that point we stopped with the process.
Ever since then, the 9 is always bouncing in my dock, and when I go into system preferences I cannot uncheck the "Start Classic when you login" option, it is greyed out for some reason.
I've attached a screen shot, I have more of what happens when I login and I can post if it would be helpful
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Dec 2, 2006
during startup, my powerbook will shutdown during the gray screen I've tried booting from an external drive. It goes to a gray screen without an apple logo.I've tried putting it in Target disk mode (to get my files off). But it won't mount on my desktop.Also tried resseting the pram as apple's troubleshooting suggested. nothing differen
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Jun 25, 2007
I got an old G4 and cleaned it up and hooked it up to a monitor, but when I start it- it shows the white startup screen and then just goes to black and i can't get an image on the monitor again. The computer is running and responding to the keyboard though
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Sep 11, 2007
I just change the name of my computer and now when I restart I don't have the login window. The computer just keep going in the Mac OS window with the blue line forever.
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Aug 30, 2008
I just downgraded my iBook G3 600 from Tiger to Panther to see if it would increase the machine's performance. I did a clean install of Panther, upgraded to 10.3.9, and now for some strange reason, when I boot the machine (even cold) the fan comes on and constantly runs, which it never did before. However If I wake the machine from sleep the fan doesn't come on -- it only happens from a full boot-up (every time).
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Sep 12, 2010
My iMac will chime, then hang on the grey apple screen with the spinning gear. After a few minutes, it shuts off. Tried resetting Pram and all... Did not work. I troubleshooted using another website, and found it to be an I/O Error. The issue is I need to reinstall the OS, however, when I boot the install CD it hangs the minute I click the mouse or keyboard.
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Feb 10, 2008
to make a long story short, my first gen 17" G4 PB had its trackpad/power button cable severed a year ago, forcing me to remove the battery and memory door each time I need to start up. It's been kernel panicking a lot in the last few months, but always restarts fine. Tonight, on startup, it could not find the HD, and the logo shifted from happy mac to question mark and back. Is my HD toast? I know the comp is totally doomed and will be getting a new MBP when they come out (if they come out...), but I had wanted to keep the Powerbook in order to do a firewire transfer of files to the new MBP I get. Can this be fixed? Can the HD be mounted in an enclosure?
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Dec 23, 2008
The sound on my 17" G4 Powerbook does not seem to be working any longer. I know there are some similar threads but I think my problem is slightly different because I get sound on startup (the startup chime) then when Leopard loads it seems to be dead.
When I press the volume keys (F4/F5) I see the volume indicator increase/decrease but I do not hear an alert sound.
When I go into System Preferences/Sound, "Internal Speakers" is grayed out under "Sound effects" but "Internal Speakers" shows up under the Output tab.
When I plug in headphones, I get no sound.
I've tried resetting the PRAM and open firmware.
I've tried creating a new user and the new user also has no sound.
I've tried repairing permissions, running disk warrior while booted from another drive, and a disk repair in disk utility, as well as fsck-fy and also clearing the cache files with applejack.
I am runnign Leopard on this machine, version 10.5.6.
I though it was a fried/disconnected sound card or a logic board issue until I realized that the startup chime was playing just fine.
Also, whenever I press the volume keys, I get the following error in system.log
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Nov 6, 2010
Hi, just wondering if anyone could give me some diagnostic tips with a very unhappy powerbook. I�ve tried the Apple support pages, but they didn�t do the job so I thought I�d look for some helpful experts � I will be immensely grateful if you could help me figure out what�s wrong.
It�s a G4 Power book, running OS 10.4. It suddenly froze on me one day, so I held down the power button to reboot and it hasn�t worked since. One thing that I guess could be relevant is that it was pretty much out of disc space � it had flashed up the warning a few times in recent days and I was in progress of doing a clean up when it went.
What I�ve tried so far:
Normal power up:
Result: Chime, apple logo and spinning logo appear. Stays that way for 4 mins, until screen goes darker grey and �You need to restart your computer. Hold down the power button for several seconds or press the Restart button.� message appears.
Safe boot (with progress status) � power up holding shift-command-v:
Result: Chime, apple logo appears, nothing else. Stays like this for ~30 mins until I give up and power down.Reseting PRAM and NVRAM � power up holding command-option-p-r
Result: Chime, then restarts and second chime, then does exactly the same as the normal power up.
Next step recommended by the Apple Support site is to start directly from the OSX installation disc � but my powerbook already has a CD inserted which I am unable to eject.
Any tips � how can I eject? Could the safe reboot take more than 30 mins (bearing in mind it didn�t give me any progress indication)? Anything else I should try?
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Jul 4, 2006
I have a 4 month old iBook 12" 1.33/512/40/combo with the following problem. It went into sleep mode and never woke up. after complete reboot 1 long beep and silence. after taking the battery out and disconnect for about 4 hours I get the beep, but inbetween absolute nothing. Anyone has tips or a solution. there is no additional memory installed.
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Sep 8, 2007
I'm relatively new to Macs and I wanted to try a clean install (or erase and install) on my ibook. I recently purchased a MBP and since Leopard is on the horizon, I wanted to do a "trial run" of installing an updated operating system. I know that you can just hit update instead of doing a clean install, but I've been reading that things run better when you do a fresh install. My old ibook still has Panther on it and I figured I could try to install Tiger on it from my MBP disks.
I know that this represents a violation of the license, but I thought it would be worth it to ensure that I don't make any major mistakes when I'm doing the same procedure with my brand new MBP when Leopard gets released. When I tried booting from the disk from my ibook I got a kernel panic which I interpreted as a sign that it was not a good idea so I abandoned the project. Now every time I try to start my ibook I get another kernel panic and I'm afraid I just broke my old computer.
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Feb 16, 2008
I just installed a new hard drive in my mac ibook g4 - but when I turn it on I still get the blinking folder with a question mark.
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Jul 26, 2008
Purchased this notebook used, but very nicely cared for, excellent condition. I ran the Apple Hardware Test and everything passed including the logic board.
The battery has 500+cycles. The problem is laptop shuts down at 50% or less of battery. Clock is wrong at startup but is correct a few seconds later.
Runs forever and very nicely on ac power.
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I have a PowerBook g4 that when i tried to run system restore disk, it does not show my hard drive as an option to mount to.
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