MacBook Pro :: In Absence Of OSX TRIM Support, How Can I Restore SSD Performance On A Mac?
Apr 2, 2010
Whenever the MBP refresh happens I intend to upgrade the stock HDD to a 7200rpm 500GB HDD or, less likely, to an SSD. An SSD had been my first option until I learned about SSD performance degradation and the lack of TRIM support in OSX. I was ready to stomach the massive SSD price premium, but the lack of TRIM would most likely rule it out completely for me. And I recall reading something about the MBP hardware connection (perhaps the the SATA connector) having a slight bottleneck compared to SSD-equipped Windows machines; so some of the top of the line SSDs won't be able to max out their transfer rates on OSX. (This is the best, not so informative, link I can find now referring to that impaired performance: http://macperformanceguide.com/Revie...tml#Single_MBP) With these performance issues, I've become perplexed why SSDs are popular amongst some Apple users
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Jun 2, 2010
I purchased an Intel 34nm 160GB SSD 12 months ago to install in my MBP 13". It has been an excellent drive, however, started to significantly slow down over the last few months. The only way I was able to recover to original speeds was by formatting the entire drive as a windows drive and running the Intel SSD Toolbox app in Win 7 (manual trim command).Finally I reinstalled OSX and voila drive was as fast as when I initially purchased it.Either Intel needs to release a OSX compatible toolbox app or Apple needs to build the functionality into OSX.I know this has been a topic before but thought I'd share my experience.
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Aug 21, 2010
How long/soon do you guys think we have to wait till OS X gets TRIM support? Do you think we will get it in 10.6.5 or do you think we will have to wait till 10.7?
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Jul 29, 2009
I've spent the best part of the day researching SSD drives, I'm wanting to pop one in my MBP.I've been looking at the OCZ Vertex and also the Intel X-25M Gen 2.I've set my heart on getting the OCZ but after spending a good hour on their forums, it seems that (like all other drives) there isn't a 'wiper' tool available for OSX.Should this affect my decision? No-one knows if Snow Leopard will support TRIM and I don't want to left with a drive that has lost most of it's umph after a few weeks.I don't claim to know all the details of TRIM (I'm a mere-mortal wanting faster performance), so please feel free to put my mind at ease
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Mar 3, 2010
First post so I apologize for any rules I may be breaking. A lot of discussion on this forum has centered around SSD's and their use. From what I have gathered, the price is quite high, but the speed is impressive. I am going to university next year and am looking for a new laptop. I have used Windows all my life and don't have anything that really requires OSX (graphics applications, etc). However, I like the design of the MBP and want something high quality that will last me 4 years. The SSD's are looking pretty appealing for the sheer speed, but OSX doesn't support TRIM, which could affect future speeds.
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Nov 26, 2010
It looks like OS X supports TRIM, but still says that my SSD doesn't support it. How stupid is that?
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Apr 5, 2012
I'm going to update my Macbook pro running 10.6.8 to as SSD, which drive will trim support? macbookpro1.2 (A1151)
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MacBook Pro, Mac OS X (10.6.8)
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Oct 21, 2010
Could someone check in their System Profiler -> Serial-ATATRIM would be really useful during the lifetime of the flash drive.
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Nov 14, 2010
Your answer might affect my decision about the purchase ofOCZ Deneva 50Gb SSD drive with SF-2500/SF-2600 controller when it comes out (early 2011).
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Feb 27, 2010
- download CentOS 5.2 Live CD ISO- burn the ISO with ImgBurn- bootup your Mac from CD called "Windows" (keep pressing Alt on startup)- open Linux console
- type: sudo su- install some needed programs with yum -y install gcc make
- download newest edition of hdparm with: wgethttp://sourceforge.net/projects/hdpa...ar.gz/download- unpack files: tar -xzvf hdparm*- go to hdparm directory cd hdparm*- type: make- then type: make install- type: /sbin/hdparm --yes-i-know-what-i-am-doing --dco-restore /dev/sda (if your SSD is a 1st drive, if second sdb, if 3rd sdc, if 4th sdd etc.)
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Aug 7, 2010
Would it be possible to see support on a feature like TRIM for ssds in a Mac OS X update? ie: 10.6.5?
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Apr 14, 2010
What is the significance of the Mac OS X 10.6 not having trim support for SSD drives? I was looking at Crucial's C300 drives, but then I read about trim support being really important.
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Feb 7, 2010
i'm planning to buy a macbook as soon as they appear with Core i5 processors, and since i want teh fastest most reliable experience possible, im also getting an SSD.After using a Solid State Disk with my windows xp machine, i've realized that without TRIM, write performance degrades considerably.This leads me to ask two questions, and any help is greatly appreciated:1. Will this SSD work if i format it as a mac drive?256GB Samsung SSD - its gotten good reviews off amazon, but i wana ask the experts (macrumors community
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Jun 14, 2010
Let's hope this happens for Mac Pro's as well.Here's the story on AppleInsider...Apple may be laying the foundation for TRIM support in future Macs, a technology that should allow their solid state flash drives to maintain optimal performance throughout the life span of the systems.The Mac maker's most recent 13-inch MacBook Pros display an option for TRIM support in their system profilers on SSD-equipped models, one which isn't present in either the second-generation unibody 15-inch MacBook Pros or the latest refresh sporting Intel's Core i5 and Core i7 processors.
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Jun 14, 2010
Apple may be laying the foundation for TRIM support in future Macs, a technology that should allow their solid state flash drives to maintain optimal performance throughout the life span of the systems.The Mac maker's most recent 13-inch MacBook Pros display an option for TRIM support in their system profilers on SSD-equipped models, one which isn't present in either the second-generation unibody 15-inch MacBook Pros or the latest refresh sporting Intel's Core i5 and Core i7 processors.TRIM is essentially a command that lets operating systems like Mac OS X inform SSDs of which blocks of pre-written data are no longer in use, allowing them to be wiped clean internally.
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Aug 1, 2009
Just found this on diglloyd's site: his solution to the SSD slowdown with usage (because of our lack of TRIM support) is to:
1) clone your SSD (back-up)
2) copy a single 100%-size file on it (like copy a 73GB file onto a 80GB SSD)
3) erase that file
4) clone it back in
Is it really that simple? [URL:....]
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Feb 17, 2012
I had a Macbook Air 11 latest version which I just sold. Now I have a Mac Pro 13 with a normal 750GB Disk. I did a complete restore of the last Time Capsule back up from the Air to the Pro. After this was completed I installed Lion latest release over the restored installation. Now everything is running but I still have the impression, that the pro is much slower than the Air - I guess one thing is the difference of performance between SSD and normal disks. But still the Pro has much more CPU power, right?Â
is there any chance, that through the restore procedure I did, the Pro hardware could have been corrupted as the backup did not match the target machine (Air to Pro)? Is there any way to check of the hardware is working as designed? I have been reading in the communities about the AHT tool, but I can not locate it on Lion, the "D" key has no effect and I have no Leopard Disks containing AHT...Â
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Mar 21, 2012
So if Front Row has been removed from Lion, does the Apple Remote url...have any purpose in controlling the Mac?I know you can use it with a dock to control an iPhone or iPod touch, but I am asking specifically about uses of the remote with an iMac and no Front Row app.
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iMac, Mac OS X (10.7.3), 27 inch, 2.8GHz Quad-Core i5, 12GB RAM
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Dec 10, 2014
I have had a lot of problems using Google Chrome browser with unwanted pop-up ads coming up all the time. It is a real pain to deal with this and it happens all the time. It all started a few days back when I clicked on updating a Java script for a program to run.
I have noticed that I do not have this problem when I use Firefox or Safari.What do I need to do to restore the performance of my Google Chrome browser
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iMac, Mac OS 9.2.x
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Aug 25, 2014
I recently updated to a Macbook pro 15" with 1TB SSD, should I use TRIM enabler? I have read conflicting information online, and am unsure if I should do this. What are the advantages? What are the dis-advantages? What is the process?
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MacBook Pro (Retina, 15-inch, Mid 2014), OS X Mavericks (10.9.4), 1TB SSD
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Jun 21, 2010
So after knowing nothing about SSDs I finally ordered this one for my 2010 i5 MBP.
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I have searched and I know Snow Leopard doesn't support TRIM yet but I was wondering if I use boot camp and install Windows 7 won't TRIM be available then? I can install all the software that came with the SSD under Windows. So my question is if I do that will the Trim feature only work on the Windows 7 partition or the entire drive?
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Apr 29, 2012
I own a MBP 13" early 2011 model  I just recently Upgraded my 320GB hard drive to an intel 520 SSD (240gb). After setting up lion 10.7.3 i realized that TRIM was not enabled by default. after searching around I found a way to enable it. However, I've also read that alot of sandforce 2281 controllers have their own form of garbage collection. intel uses some custom firmware they written so would it be benificial if i enable trim or not?
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MacBook Pro, Mac OS X (10.7)
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Oct 26, 2009
only under Windows 7...At least OS X users will get the write speed bump [URL] /Deta...17485&lang=eng
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Jan 23, 2010
I�m not quite sure if this has been mentioned before, but I was wondering if the TRIM command would be functional if I was to run Windows 7 via VMware or bootcamp?
I know Snow Leopard does not support TRIM and Windows 7 does, so I was hoping as a workaround to this issue, I would run windows 7 on vmware and maybe reap the benefits of TRIM support in Windows 7? I do on occasion use Windows 7 via VMware, so I'm not only considering installing it for just the TRIM command function.
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Dec 11, 2014
I have installed a Seagate 1 TB hybrid drive (8gb flash, 2.5", 5400 rpm) in my Mac 8.1 (early 2011 MBP, 16 gb memory), which runs the Yosemite OS.  After reading about SSD's and Trim, and the negative effect of Trim disabling upon SSDs after several months, I am wondering if there is a need to enable/disable Trim upon a THD (traditional hd drv) which has 8gb flash for quick booting.?
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MacBook Pro (13-inch Early 2011), Trim and Hybrid HD
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Dec 4, 2014
What is the best way to setup effective TRIM for a newly installed SanDisk Ultra Plus 256 GB (old version) drive on a mid 2010 MacBook Pro 6,2 with 8 GB RAM and running just installed Yosemite OSs 10.10.1? The new operating system is not referenced by SanDisk.Â
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MacBook Pro, OS X Yosemite (10.10.1), SanDisk Ultra Plus GB (old version
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Nov 13, 2010
I need to erase the soundtrack from a movie, using the QT X player in Snow Leopard. Can this be done, without using the QT 7 player? Also, how can I remove a video part in the middle of a movie, using the QT X player? Apparently, I can only remove the start and end parts, using the trim option (command-T).
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Mar 27, 2012
I have some mp3 files that I would like to use in VLC and/or iTunes. I want to trim off some at the beginning.
Info:iMac, Mac OS X (10.7.3)
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Apr 23, 2012
How can I trim a few seconds off the front and end of an MP3? I looked at GarageBand but it wants to create a new projects and all sorts of stuff that aren't related to this simple task.
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Oct 20, 2010
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I'm converting stuff with Handbrake using Apple TV preset for my iPhone 4 and 1G Apple TV. Works great.
However, what app for Mac is there to then trim the video? I want to trim the start and end as sometimes ends up being about 15mins, and I never watch the whole credits on end.
Preferably free or low cost. I have iMovie 09 but think this will re-encode the file? I just want to trim it.
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