MacBook :: Cloning A Hard Disk Versus A Complete Reinstall Of Leopard
May 29, 2009
I have a white macbook which I purchased in 2007 ( it is the version that only goes to 2MB of Ram total). In anycase I have a Hard Drive that i want switch into it. The question I have is there any benefit to just reinstalling a fresh copy of Leopard vs using a cloning software (SuperDuper or Carbon Copy)? Here is why I ask:
I cant remember ever defragging the current drive ( if that possibility even exists in Leopard.
I dont remember running any system tool like utility.
I have basically kept computer on ( or on sleep) for the time Ive used it. It is the best computer i have ever had. It is VERY low maintainance.
So with that said....does cloning copy over every characteristic ( an fragmented drive...slowness {of which none really exists}....or the time to launch the OS when it is rebooted)?
With all of this said, I dont use this computer for much storage. I have a couple of MP3s on there which can be ported off of there with a USB flash drive....and a couple of documents. Everything else is pretty much expendable.
I dont know...something tells me that its just better to freshly install the OS.
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Sep 19, 2009
On my new MBP I fired and set-up the system, and SL was already installed.
I followed the procedure of cloning my Leopard HD on to a local back-up drive, using CCC, plugged it in to the MBP and booted from the clone.It has booted up without any noticeable issues but when I go to open Disk Utility, or any other program on the cloned disk, I get the '...application X quit unexpectedly' dialogue box
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Jul 15, 2009
I have today received my shiny new macbook pro - very excited!I currently have a macbook, and I previously upgraded the hard drive to 320 GB (same as the new Macbook Pro). What I wanted to do was just swap the hard drives - however when I put the macbook hard drive in the macbook pro it didnt boot. Pressing ALT on startup it sees the hard drive but just hangs (doesnt even show the apple sign).I dont have all the application disks so dont really want to start from a fresh install - I was thinking of cloning the disk with super duper, but that probably will have the same effect of swapping the disk!
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Mar 1, 2010
I have a 250 GB disk in my MacBook Pro, and I would like to buy a bigger one (500 GB, probably). In my previous experience from the Windows environment, there was an application called Norton Ghost, in which you could easily clone the disk, and when the cloned one was inserted into your PC, the OS could not tell the difference. Is there something similar for the Mac OS X, so that I can replicate my hard drive and thus install the new one in my Macbook without any hassle? I know that Time Machine is a possibility, but after restoring my system through TM once, I found out that after the restore there were some minor additional steps that had to be taken; however, the cloning technique means that you plug your disk and you are ready to go, so this is what I am looking for. I have one more additional question: I currently use a 500 GB external firewire disk for Time Machine. Will its size be sufficient for backing up the new 500 GB drive?
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Feb 27, 2012
After cloning OSX leopard with SuperDuper, disk not rebootable. It reboots the original.I even tried SuperDuper repair permissions before cloning.
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Jun 14, 2012
After backing up my data and then swiping my hard drive using Disk Utility, my OS seems to have been uninstalled as well. Is there a way to recover the deleted information and go back to the last working configuration? I'm on a MBP IC2D 2.16 w/ Lion.
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Dec 29, 2010
i just bought a MBA 11' and is a first time i own mac product. so i am completely newbie in MAC.
i saw a sticky up there to complete install fresh Mac OsX in the MBA to free space. i would like to do it but i dun have the DVD. i know the MBA come with the installation thumb drive, can i follow the instruction in the post and use the thumbdrive to install fresh copy?
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Feb 20, 2012
My macbook is about 5 years old. It needs resetting and, having been a student, I've moved about 5 or 6 times and have lost the disk. (Yes I've learned my lesson!) So how can I reinstall without it? I also need to upgrade my OS, probably to snow leopard, so I wondered whether I could erase everything and start from scratch whilst doing this?  If not, what options do I have? Do I need to buy the disk again? I have also got time machine backups, but they're from quite late, when the computer was already running slowly.
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MacBook, Mac OS X (10.5.8)
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i know that diskutil has alot of commands and im not sure how to use them, i would specifically want to know how to use eraseDisk properly. Or is there any other way to clean install tiger without using darwin? I know eraseDisk gives me a format to use but i never get it right for some reason. diskutil eraseDisk "Journaled HFS+" MacintoshHD bootable /dev/disk0 -- this works i got it right now but it gives me this error: could not unmount disk for zeroing
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Apr 27, 2010
If I want to make a bootable clone of my boot drive onto an external FW hard drive which I can restore from if my internal boot drive becomes corrupted, do I need 3rd party software like Carbon Copy Cloner, or can I just create an image of the boot disk in Apple's Disk Utility and save that to the external FW hard drive?
Apart from incremental updating, what is the difference between these two methods in terms of being able to restore my computer to a previous state with all my applications installed? (I keep my data stored on a 2nd internal hard drive and am happy with manually backing this up to another external HD). So my reason for wanting to make a clone of my boot drive is so that I don't need to waste time re-installing all of my applications from DVD...
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Jan 11, 2011
My friend recently sold me her old ppc Powerbook G4, but it was her families old computer so I feel weird using it seeing their file names and such. I want to re install os x but they lost all of the discs.. Is there any way I can use the current ones from my iMac (snow leopard so I'm thinking no)
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Mar 7, 2012
My MBPro is getting cranky in a number of ways that indicate a reinstall of Snow Leopard is in order. After the requisite disk first aid check I attempted to run the installer only to get a dialog box telling me that the system cannot be installed because this disk is used by time machine. The MacBook disk is of course a source for back ups but not a back up drive. Even after restarting and explicitly turning off Time machine I get the same results.What do I need to set to allow the installer to run. The installer cd is a stand alone snow leopard install cd, not a machine specific cd.
Info:A buncha Macs, IPad, iphone, iPod
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Jan 1, 2010
sorry if this has been asked; I tried searching.Anyway, I just bought a larger capacity hard drive and am not sure how to copy the stock 160GB 5400RPM one.Do I need to have some sort of connection to the new hard drive?Is there any way to copy it without having to buy some kind of peripheral?I also have an external hard drive.Would my best bet be just backing everything up and just set up the hard drive as new and just restoring everything??
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Mar 28, 2012
So my hard drive just broke. Like a fool I accidently dropped it this morning and this means it cant be booted. I've tried everything I could find on reviving the thing but nothing has worked. However, after leaving it on the grey Apple booting screen for a good hour or so it finally managed to get to the desktop but was still going slowly. My macbook is able to boot of my external hard drive and I've checked the RAM and it's fine, which leaves me to believe that it's a problem with the hard drive itself.Â
Now the issue is that my external hard drive is only 160GB and my internal (now broken) one is 500GB with around 300GB of stuff on it (yes I do need it) and I don't want to have to lose it all. So is there any way of getting my currently broken hard drive and putting its data onto a new one? My idea is to take it out, install the new one and use the broken was as an external and do it like that.
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Feb 8, 2012
Lion is just too much for me. Can I download to my previous Snow Leopard by using a SL disk to perform an archive and reinstall? Will this keep my files, folders, programs, and settings intact?
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May 8, 2012
I just tried to use my MacBook pro but its showing a loading bar and it loads for like 5% and then shuts down.I read the instruction booklet and it says that I should tried to repair the disk or reinstall Lion but when I tried to repair it stops the process and when I try to reinstall its telling me that the disk is Locked...
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MacBook Pro, Mac OS X (10.7.2)
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Mar 31, 2012
Recently I bought 2 identical WD Scorpio Blue 1TB hard drives for my macbook pro 13 inch 2010. My aim is to replace the internal hard drive with one of the two I just purchased and use it as my system drive with Lion, Windows and Data partitions. And for the other hard drive I want to use it as a full disk back up for the internal drive (now 1TB hard drive). After I was done with setting up both windows and mac and data transfer, when I booedt into the recovery partition from the internal drive to clone the drive to the external drive, the disk utility gave me this error (Could not validate source - error 254). I also tried using Carbon Copy Cloner but it only could clone partitions, not the entire drive. Yesterday I downloaded a copy of Clonezilla. It worked fine until it had to clone an exFAT partition (my data partition). The exFAT partition appeared as 'RAW' partition in clonezilla. As a result, the whole partition appeared to be full and clonezilla had to copy every single blocks of data in that partition and the estimated time remaining was about 30 hours. So clonezilla is out too. Just want to ask if there is any program/application (bootable or not) which allows can do a full disk clone to an external hard drive.
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Feb 15, 2011
Recently I purchased an external hard disk, to put all of my pictures of my baby due to space limitations on my internal laptop drive. Since my Canon camera 10 megapixel pictures take up a ton of space this was occurring at an alarming rate. My intention was also to back up to DVD but never got to it. This is both a comment and a question.
Now said baby, is getting really good at pulling cords etc. He managed to do this on the external drive firewire cable. As far as i know the drive was not in the process of actually writing. However, after a few minutes and trying to re-plug the drive the OS crashed with a Grey Screen of Death hardware error that tells you that you need to push the power button..
This apparently corrupted the drive's directory. Upon reboot the drive would not mount. Since there were time machine backups on the drive too Diskwarrior was not able to reconstruct the drive in the built in memory available on the computer. Time machine stores millions of files and Diskwarrior apparently wants to keep it all in memory at once. Since my computer has 2GB you would hope that would be enough but apparently not. So that failed. Other utilities seemed to be able to find the files but not restore the directory. I also took it to the apple store they were not able to recover it.
I have to say this is extremely distressing, and hard to believe that a simple accident like this could cost the loss of thousands of pictures. I did send it to a rescue company but that was expensive but I think apple needs to do something about this situation.
On Windows there is a way to disable the write cache for external drives. This is not available for Mac OS X. This would prevent this rather common occurrence of a plug accidentally becoming disengaged when the drive is not in the process of writing. This reduces the odds but I still think apple, in order to become clearly superior, needs a better solution.
I know Apple has experimented with ZFS would this not eliminate this possibility of this kind of disaster? Is this in Snow Leopard desktop? I know they are thinking this is a business customer focused technology but clearly if it can eliminate this kind of thing then I think it is extremely useful to their non server customers. Perhaps there are other ways of dealing with this issue but ZFS is designed to deal with these issues. HFS+ is extremely fragile to disk corruption.
I know my situation is not that uncommon and this is not the first time this has happened to me with an external drive. You would think I had learned. I hate to think of how many other people have had the same thing happen to them.
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MacBook Pro
Mac OS X (10.5.8)
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Nov 10, 2010
I am trying to do clone the system only from my current hard drive to a smaller internal SSD. Tried with SuperDuper but the resulting drive was not bootable even though it had the system folder. Has anyone done this successfully?
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Dec 17, 2009
what's the best way of cloning the hard drive? Since I have Snow Leopard, Windows, and Ubuntu on here, I could use Time Machine for SL, WinClone for Windows, and something else for Ubuntu. Is there anything that could make an exact copy of the hard drive (including the partitions)?
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May 10, 2012
My Macbook pro has just had a new 500gb hard drive in it and osx snow leopard had not been put on it because i never got a disk when i bought it. It still comes up with the grey screen with the flashing folder which i think would be normal because there is nothing on the hard drive. How do i install OSX Snow Leopard back on it the cheapest way possible?
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MacBook Pro (13-inch Late 2011)
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May 10, 2012
My Macbook pro has just had a new 500gb hard drive in it and osx snow leopard had not been put on it because i never got a disk when i bought it. It still comes up with the grey screen with the flashing folder which i think would be normal because there is nothing on the hard drive. How do i install OSX Snow Leopard back on it the cheapest way possible? and easiest.
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MacBook Pro (13-inch Late 2011)
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Mar 25, 2009
My OS is 10.3.9 and I have my int. Hd cloned to a F/W ext. HD for back up. Normally I re-clone every month or two. Up until now when re cloning I've just thrown the old cloned Ext. HD into the trash, then empty, to make space for the new clone. This system "Seems" to work, as after a RAM crash, when looking for a solution I wiped the int. HD before I found it was a Ram problem. Finally I just replaced the RAM and rebooted from the Ext. HD then re-cloned back to the int HD. And everything is working fine. But now I'm wondering if just throwing the stuff into the trash is "politically correct?" If not, what is the correct procedure.
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Clone app/ CCC
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MacBook, iOS 5.1
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Apr 20, 2010
i'm cloning my mac hd (mac book pro, snow leopard) and though i've made successful clones, the sum of the hard drives (mac hd and external hd) don't match. for instance, my mac hd reads at: 233.71 GB, however the cloned external hd reads at: 216.54 GB. can anyone explain this discrepancy? are there certain things that don't go into the clone that are on the mac hd?
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Mar 10, 2012
I have an IMac 20 inch 2007 model. I have filled my hard drive up. I would like to clone and replace the hard drive?
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iMac, Mac OS X (10.6.8)
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Dec 23, 2010
I want to do some upgrade things with my macbook and need to know if all is correct.My current internal hd is 80gb. I'm on 10.4.11. I plan on going to Snow Leopard but I want to keep my 10.4.11 system too to use. Almost 2 year old intel macbook.
I have superduper. I just got a new 500gb drive for the macbook. I also got a usb external 2.5" enclosure. I haven't done anything yet.What I want to do.... I want to partition the new hd into two. Probably 120gb to clone my current system on (with some room for growth) and the remainder to do a whole new fresh install + various applications of Snow Leopard.
Firstly, is it OK for me to have two separate OS's to boot from?
Secondly, cloning procedure.... should I take out my current hd and put it into the external enclosure, then put in the new hd, then boot from my former drive via usb and clone it onto the newly installed drive?
OR...put the new drive first into the enclosure, clone my system onto it, then switch out the drives? Does it matter which way?
Thirdly, since I'm not going to be doing any upgrading of my 10.4 system to SL....I'm leaving it intact as is.....and then doing a completely new install of SL....is there anything weird I should look out for. I dunno....my admin account...or not being able to have Logic installed more than once on the same machine...or anything else I should be aware of?
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OS X Mavericks (10.9.2)
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MacBook
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