Mac Pro :: Cpu Work On Dual Nehalem Mac Pro?
Aug 17, 2010
I have built a hackintosh mac pro 3.1 on dell T5400 and working good. Now I wan to build a real mac with mac parts. As titled, will there be any switch to make the single cpu working on dual cpu board, OR no way, that I need to put two? Or it's even simpler just boot the machine with one cpu left on board. Since putting 1 cpu save lots money for me.
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Mar 18, 2009
Does anyone know if the logic board is the same for all current dual nehalem processors offered by Apple? Or does the dual 2.26GHz quad have a different logic board than the dual 2.93GHz quad?
It seems like if they have the same logic board you could buy the dual 2.26GHz now and down the road you could buy the dual 2.93GHz chips (when they aren't $2,600 more) and just replace the dual 2.26GHz chips. Maybe it's not that easy, but if it is it seems like a great alternative to buying the top machine right now. Does anyone know if this is possible??
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Jan 16, 2009
I searched but couldn't find anything that I needed. I picked up some MDDs(dual 1.25 & FW800 1ghz) with bad power supplies and eying up another MDD(Dual 867) which is working. Will the dual 1.25 and single 1ghz processor daughter card work on the previous model? I know the System clock is different and heard about removing a resister on the first gens to 167mhz FSB. I will also try and transplant the PSU too to check to see if my 2 MDDs fully work or not.
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Jul 17, 2009
In the last 2 weeks before my MP shipped, I've asked 3 Apple Geniuses at Apple stores and Apple Tech support about running dual DVI 23" Cinema Displays with 4870's. They ALL said I would need a second card. When I attempted the install, there were only 2 power cord clips on the back face of the main board. Both being used by the onboard Radeon 4870. What to do next? Another call to Apple support offered me a nice Indian girl who I could not really understand. Finally, I called a local non-Apple shop that I frequent for hardware and service issues. The very nice service tech told me to take the 2nd card back, since that original 4870 will drive 2 monitors perfectly, in my case, with a simple Mini DisplayPort to DVI adaptor for the 2nd 23" display.
how would you install any 2nd graphics card, if a 4870 takes up both power clips?
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Mar 29, 2010
I have a Mac Pro 1,1 with a flashed ATI Radeon HD 4870 XFX. Had no problems with it ever.
Installed Mac OS X 10.6.3 software update and now the second monitor says No Input detected. Switched second monitor to first monitor and it worked fine, but the second DVI port no longer works.
Need to get this figured ASAP as I have a lot of work to do today... very unhappy with this update. Anyone else having a similar issue or have any thoughts on what to try? I've done everything I can think of.
Do I need to flash it again? Seems silly to have to flash it every time you update the OS. The video card is still recognized in System Profiler. HD 4870 with 1GB GDDDR5 VRAM.
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Jan 6, 2011
I need a bit of insight as to how to maximize the performance (and if there is any) with dual display setups on both my MP1,1 and 5,1.
First off, MP 5,1. Currently I'm running a 30" ACD off a DVI and 23" of a MDP to DVI on a 5870. The 30" is my main work display - the 23" is pretty much running trivial things, like browsers, finder, iTunes, etc. Since VRAM is being split between the two displays, would I benefit from installing a second video card to just run the 23" monitor and dedicate the 5870 to just run the 30" ACD? If yes, what should I use? I have an old 7300, but If there's anything better out there that's non cable powered, I'll get it. Also, there are times (rarely) when I need to run Windows 7-64bit to do some 3d CAD work - would having video cards from different vendors (hence different drivers) cause W7 to go nuts (conflicts, etc)? I can live with just the 30" on W7. I want to get get the most out of 5870 and 30" ACD while not running into conflicts under OS X by introducing another video card.
Second, MP 1,1.
It's windows 7 64-bit machine only. I have OS X installed, but since I use it for work I never boot into it. It's running a 27" display (1920x1200) on DVI and 23" (1680X1050) on MDP to DVI adapter. Again, the bigger display is my work area, and the smaller one runs browsers, outlook, etc. I do 3d CAD work, so more VRAM I dedicate to my main display, better it is. So back to my original question...what are my options? I do have that 7300 hanging around, but, again, I'm not so thrilled on mixing video card vendors and drivers. Should I just get some sort of low grade Windows based ATI Radeon card (don't care much of OS X on that machine).
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Mar 17, 2008
I am about to acquire a dual 1ghz MDD powermac g4 and was thinking of turning it into my main work computer. I do graphic design and own licenses to both cs2 and cs3. I also have retail versions of tiger and leopard. My question is what combination would be reasonable with this machine and if its reasonable using hardware this old for print design. I am not pro or a demanding user, but I do a fair amount illustrator, photoshop, and indesign work.
File sizes almost always well under 100mb. Right now I am using a Macbook Pro and I am aware that its much faster than this Power Mac, but I really would appreciate something I can have multiple hds in. It has 1gb of ram, and a radeon 9600 video card. Its also the non firewire 800 version. (2002)
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Jun 14, 2010
I'm working with a Mac Pro (2x3 GHz Dual-Core Intel Xeon, 4 GB RAM) and a dual 23" monitor setup. Quite recently the second monitor stopped responding, after disconnecting everything, moving, and reconnecting. (Everything was boxed lovingly in its original packaging and moved by gentle movers.)
It isn't the monitors � both work fine in the first monitor port. The computer recognizes there is a second monitor attached, allowing me to access Arrangement options under System Preferences > Displays.
The power light on the second monitor comes on, blinking in the following manner (if it were Morse Code): dot dash dot....(then it is dark for about four seconds before repeating the same blinking sequence). It appears to have some sort of meaning.
Any ideas? Is there a way to reset this?
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Jun 16, 2010
I have an issue with my 4870 (Mac edition) that has been occurring since day one (when I purchased it last month), but it's not something that happens every single time.
I've run into a problem that the 4870 has trouble recognizing one or both monitors plugged in. If I shut off power to my displayport-connected main monitor, it'll throw the menu bar, all the desktop items, and application windows onto the second monitor (DVI-connected). This also happens when I shut off the second monitor (desktop items and app windows get shuffled to the main monitor).
The other issue is that on startup, it may just be slow to recognize one of them, and the above screen-swapping issues happen anyway, followed seconds later by the screen once again being recognized.
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Sep 9, 2010
I have a new 2010 MBP and I'd like to hook up two external monitors to it, more specifically, two ASUS VW246H 24-Inch Widescreen LCD Monitors. Either via HDMI or DVI connections. I've found various usb monitor adapters, but i've read that many can't quite 'keep up' and I really can't seem to find a solid solution out there.
So does anyone have a dual monitor setup they currently use, if so, what are you using to connect the mini display port to both external monitors.
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Apr 9, 2009
After several hours my mac is running linked to my LCD screen through MiniDisplay Port - VGA connector, Front Row simply doesn't start. It fades to black for a while but then it immediately fades back to the desktop.
I uninstalled every application might have affected Front Row (Caffeine, LastFm, TV Row) but it was useless. I even tried to fix permissions in the Disk Utility, but it didn't help.
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Jun 16, 2009
I recently purchased a second 22" Dell 2209WA to go with my Mac Pro. They are both running from the ATI Radeon 4870 on my Mac Pro (2009 Quad) but the Expose performance seems to be really quite poor. Displaying all the windows is very juddery and not smooth at all. Is that what I should be expecting now? I wouldn't have on a �2000 Machine. Going into Spaces is fine, it's just Expose thats poor.
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Sep 1, 2009
I connected a external monitor onto my macbook pro and I want to know how do I make that monitor my main one? like move everything (dock, folders, and bar on top) to my external monitor?
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Jul 29, 2010
I wonder if anyone has a setup with two 24 inch cinema displays that have speakers integrated into them...
How do the speakers work? Do you run a USB cable to each monitor so you have both sets of speakers working at the same time? Can you configure the monitor on the left to just play audio for the left channel and the monitor on the right to play just audio for the right channel?
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Mar 24, 2010
I found one on craigslist for $15 but want to make sure it will work, or if I do get it and try to install it I want to make sure I don't break my computer.
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Jan 25, 2010
I purchased the apple mini display port to dual-link dvi adaptor and a dual-link dvi cable. The 2690 display now "lights up" but I get constant partial screen flicker and flashes.
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Mar 23, 2009
Has anyone tried hooking up a two 30 ACD's to a 4870 on their MP.. just want to check if there are ANY issues with this setup.
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Sep 19, 2010
m having trouble deciding between these two models. Might get the 3.33 Ghz 6c Westmere but leaning towards the 8c models. Why is the 2009 Nehalem faster? The guy at the Apple store was suprised by that also. Are there any changes in the 2010 2.4 8c Westmere from the 2009 Nehalem model?I will be using it for intensive music software (Prottools, Digital Performer, East West, Symphobia, Vienna Symp Inst. All web and graphics software (Photoshop, Flash, InDesign, etc and Astronomy programs)
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Mar 11, 2009
Looks like the 2.26 is doing better after all. Some users have even gotten Cinebench scores for the new 2.26 like: 3142 (single) and 20,138 (multiple) reported here.
CINEBENCH 10
This free benchmark app uses real world code from Cinema 4D to render a sample project. It stresses all available cores. In the case of the Nehalem, hyperthreading fools the app into thinking there are 16 cores on the 8-core models and 8 cores on the 4-core models. The graph below shows the Cinebench rating for "Multi-CPU" render test.
GEEKBENCH 2
It's not only multi-core aware, but it includes some memory tests which explains why the Nehalem based Mac Pros beat the older Penryn based Power Macs with higher core frequencies. The graph below shows the overall 32-bit score.
There is also a 64-bit version of Geekbench. Fewer results exist for it since, for some unexplained reason, consumers will gladly spend thousands for a new Mac but resist purchasing a $20 serial number in support of a starving Mac developer.
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Mar 15, 2009
Last night Lloyd Chambers of [URL] tweaked his DigLloydTools app (DLT) that we use to test memory throughput. It's now more accurate. The bad news is that it showed that when we put 8 sticks of memory in the 8-core 2.26GHz Nehalem, our throughput for memory read/write (memmove) dropped by 1/3. It turns a triple channel memory bus into a dual channel memory bus.
Specifically, in our test, the combined read/write throughput dropped from 9261MB/s to 6195MB/s when we went from 6x2GB to 8x2GB configuration.
Now, don't panic. That doesn't necessarily affect real world app performance unless the particular app you are running is saturating the memory bus. Which apps saturate? I don't know yet. I'm running our complete real world test suite including Pro Apps and 3D Games in both the 12G and 16G config. If I find anything that's significantly slowed by the 8x2G config, I'll post it here as well as on Bare Feats.
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Mar 16, 2009
Can you upgrade the processors in the new Mac Pro's in the future if you choose to?
I have seen a couple people mention to but the 2.6 for now and upgrade them in the future when the price of the processors drops.
I didn't know if I was misinterpreting what they were writing.
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Apr 25, 2009
Hi, I have a question to Owner of the New Mac Pro Nehalem (4 Cores):
How many CPU you see in After Effects CS4?
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Jul 14, 2008
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Pssst! Want an Intel 'Nehalem' processor on the cheap? Well, just go and ask the chip giant for one. It's 2.66GHz 'Bloomfield' CPU has been price at just $284, it has been claimed.
That's the batch price, of course. To get it, you'll have to buy a 1000 CPUs at once - boxed Bloomfields will come in slightly higher than that.
As previously reported, the 2.66GHz Bloomfield - Intel's desktop Nehalem - will also be made available in 2.93GHz and 3.2GHz versions. The pricing, posted by Chinese-language site HKEPC, confirms the latter will be an Extreme-branded gaming PC part - it'll cost $999. The mid-range Bloomfield will cost $562.
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Mar 17, 2009
Is it the Western Digital 6400AAKS?? The stock hdd??
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Jul 19, 2009
I want a mac pro is for storage space and to play games on. I want to use a GTX285 and I also want to run vmware fusion full time. I'd like to have OS X be my main os with Windows 7 and Ubuntu running in the background. So basically i'm not sure if it's better to have like four cores dedicated to Windows 7/Ubuntu while i have my other set of cores dedicated to OS X?
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Jan 14, 2010
I'm looking into getting a used single quad core 2.66 Nehalem and was wondering does this model have turbro boost and hyperthreading?
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Aug 13, 2010
Is the westmere's turbo boost better? I heard someone say that it is and I wanted to confirm.
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Aug 20, 2010
I'm planning on buying a MacPro soon.
I'm considering buying a refurbished 8 core with the idea of upgrading the processors on a year or two when they are cheaper.
Is this possible (replacing Nehalems with Westmeres)?
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Nov 20, 2008
I remembered that at one point Mac Pro's CPU was a direct successor to its previous model, as in you can buy one of the successor chip and replace the older one, since the MLB could support it.
Is this the case with Harpertown to Nehalem? Can you just go on Newegg and get 2 Nehalem, and throw them in to the current Mac Pro?
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Mar 19, 2009
I'm about to order a 2x2.26Ghz 8-core Mac Pro.I still have to decide whether to order it with the base hard drive (640GB)or the 1TB hard drive (as the boot drive).What would you recommend? Is the 640GB hard drive faster t
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