I'm planning on buying a MacPro soon.
I'm considering buying a refurbished 8 core with the idea of upgrading the processors on a year or two when they are cheaper.
Is this possible (replacing Nehalems with Westmeres)?
m having trouble deciding between these two models. Might get the 3.33 Ghz 6c Westmere but leaning towards the 8c models. Why is the 2009 Nehalem faster? The guy at the Apple store was suprised by that also. Are there any changes in the 2010 2.4 8c Westmere from the 2009 Nehalem model?I will be using it for intensive music software (Prottools, Digital Performer, East West, Symphobia, Vienna Symp Inst. All web and graphics software (Photoshop, Flash, InDesign, etc and Astronomy programs)
View 11 Replies View RelatedIs the westmere's turbo boost better? I heard someone say that it is and I wanted to confirm.
View 11 Replies View RelatedI was hoping to find out everything I need to know about the 2010 Mac Pro westmere processors.W advantage do they provide? How might I benefit?
View 3 Replies View RelatedCan you upgrade the processors in the new Mac Pro's in the future if you choose to?
I have seen a couple people mention to but the 2.6 for now and upgrade them in the future when the price of the processors drops.
I didn't know if I was misinterpreting what they were writing.
I remembered that at one point Mac Pro's CPU was a direct successor to its previous model, as in you can buy one of the successor chip and replace the older one, since the MLB could support it.
Is this the case with Harpertown to Nehalem? Can you just go on Newegg and get 2 Nehalem, and throw them in to the current Mac Pro?
Does anyone know if the logic board is the same for all current dual nehalem processors offered by Apple? Or does the dual 2.26GHz quad have a different logic board than the dual 2.93GHz quad?
It seems like if they have the same logic board you could buy the dual 2.26GHz now and down the road you could buy the dual 2.93GHz chips (when they aren't $2,600 more) and just replace the dual 2.26GHz chips. Maybe it's not that easy, but if it is it seems like a great alternative to buying the top machine right now. Does anyone know if this is possible??
I had to pull the trigger today at the retail store and could not wait any longer. Can someone tell me what I will really be missing between these two systems:2.26 8-core Nehalem vs 2.4 8-core WestmereBesides the obvious 12MB L3 Cache, 1 TB HD, 1 GB GPU and built-in WI-FI What about the 2.26 to 2.4 GHz bump? Anything there?I am using CS5, FCP, XCode, and performing some data analysis.Do I need to be concerned about this anything at all I am missing out on?
View 16 Replies View Relatedhave to pull the trigger again on a Mac Pro and soon... Besides the video card and hard drive bump is there any other technical advantages (i.e. main-board, memory, internal components, etc...) that would make worth holding out for a 2010 Westmere 8-Core Mac Pro vs the 2009 Nehalem 8-Core?
View 8 Replies View RelatedAnyone think that intels Westmere will be the next processor for the mac pro? scheduled release is q4 09 or q1 2010
View 24 Replies View RelatedI bought the the 2010 Mac Pro after much debating on whether to build a hackintosh or not.I bought the low end model from B&H Photo given it was the best price for the low end model and secondly knowing that I would be upgrading it.I bought the W3680 3.33 GHz westmere from an eBay seller for $899 plus shipping. This was cheaper than either the 980x non xeon version or the Newegg w3680 (or most other site prices for the w3680) which seems hard to find. Overall, even if I could not sell the 2.8GHz w3530 xeon which came with the machine I would be out $899 vs $1200 plus tax from Apple (about a $400 outright saving).
View 24 Replies View RelatedI've read many of the threads regarding RAM pricing and configurations for the 6-Core systems. I planned on ordering my Pro with 6Gb instead of the default 3GB, but my friend at Apple forgot when he placed the order. what I understand RAM module placement and type may significantly impact system performance for this platform. As I need to double the RAM, should I purchase 3x1GB modules to add or purchase 3x2GB models and sell the 3x1 that came with the system? Also, which is the best RAM retailer, OWC, Crucial, etc?
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View 1 Replies View RelatedI'm getting so bored of waiting for Apple to bring out a new Mac Pro. So I'm now thinking why it's not possible to upgrade the processors in my dual 2.66 quad core Intel Xeon Nehalem to the new Westmere 3.33 GHz 6 core Xeon processors.They run the same voltage range so the existing power supply should be fine, have the same 1366 socket and can use the same RAM specs. Cooling should be fine as wel However, will the motherboard in the dual Nehalem Mac's run Westmere processors? Does the BIOS need to be upgraded? Would a 3rd party motherboard run them instead?I'm gathering no one has done this yet.
View 13 Replies View RelatedBefore everyone says "IT DOESNT HAVE B1 STEPPING!!!" hear me out.The new 2010 Mac Pro's that were just released have options for both the 4-8 core and 6-12 core option. This coupled with the fact that nothing has changed other than graphics cards etc. makes me think if someone could extract the EFI code, they could just drop it into an 09 and it would include B1 stepping, so people like me could just drop in a 3.33 Westmere and call it a day.Again, I have no idea about anything EFI, it just seems like much more a possbility now that both the 4-8 core and 6-12 core versions are running on basically the same machine.
View 20 Replies View RelatedWhat do you guys think?I am also curious as to the clock speed of the new upcoming processors. Online it says the fastest one they have is 3.2 GHZ, so will the speed increase come from DDR3 memory and no frontside bus?Does anyone know the actual technical differences between the current processors and the upcoming, other than the memory and frontside bus?
View 11 Replies View Relatedthe Westmere-EP vs. The i7-980X? It looks as though the Westmere-EP is pretty much identical to the i7-980X so why use the Westmere in the Mac Pro vs the i7http://ark.intel.com/Compare.aspx?ids=47917,47932,Name1. Intel� Xeon� Processor W3680 (12M Cache, 3.33 GHz, 6.40 GT/s Intel� QPI)2. Intel� Core™ i7-980X Processor Extreme Edition (12M Cache, 3.33 GHz, 6.40 GT/s Intel� QPI)
View 3 Replies View RelatedLooks like the 2.26 is doing better after all. Some users have even gotten Cinebench scores for the new 2.26 like: 3142 (single) and 20,138 (multiple) reported here.
CINEBENCH 10
This free benchmark app uses real world code from Cinema 4D to render a sample project. It stresses all available cores. In the case of the Nehalem, hyperthreading fools the app into thinking there are 16 cores on the 8-core models and 8 cores on the 4-core models. The graph below shows the Cinebench rating for "Multi-CPU" render test.
GEEKBENCH 2
It's not only multi-core aware, but it includes some memory tests which explains why the Nehalem based Mac Pros beat the older Penryn based Power Macs with higher core frequencies. The graph below shows the overall 32-bit score.
There is also a 64-bit version of Geekbench. Fewer results exist for it since, for some unexplained reason, consumers will gladly spend thousands for a new Mac but resist purchasing a $20 serial number in support of a starving Mac developer.
Last night Lloyd Chambers of [URL] tweaked his DigLloydTools app (DLT) that we use to test memory throughput. It's now more accurate. The bad news is that it showed that when we put 8 sticks of memory in the 8-core 2.26GHz Nehalem, our throughput for memory read/write (memmove) dropped by 1/3. It turns a triple channel memory bus into a dual channel memory bus.
Specifically, in our test, the combined read/write throughput dropped from 9261MB/s to 6195MB/s when we went from 6x2GB to 8x2GB configuration.
Now, don't panic. That doesn't necessarily affect real world app performance unless the particular app you are running is saturating the memory bus. Which apps saturate? I don't know yet. I'm running our complete real world test suite including Pro Apps and 3D Games in both the 12G and 16G config. If I find anything that's significantly slowed by the 8x2G config, I'll post it here as well as on Bare Feats.
Hi, I have a question to Owner of the New Mac Pro Nehalem (4 Cores):
How many CPU you see in After Effects CS4?
I have built a hackintosh mac pro 3.1 on dell T5400 and working good. Now I wan to build a real mac with mac parts. As titled, will there be any switch to make the single cpu working on dual cpu board, OR no way, that I need to put two? Or it's even simpler just boot the machine with one cpu left on board. Since putting 1 cpu save lots money for me.
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Pssst! Want an Intel 'Nehalem' processor on the cheap? Well, just go and ask the chip giant for one. It's 2.66GHz 'Bloomfield' CPU has been price at just $284, it has been claimed.
That's the batch price, of course. To get it, you'll have to buy a 1000 CPUs at once - boxed Bloomfields will come in slightly higher than that.
As previously reported, the 2.66GHz Bloomfield - Intel's desktop Nehalem - will also be made available in 2.93GHz and 3.2GHz versions. The pricing, posted by Chinese-language site HKEPC, confirms the latter will be an Extreme-branded gaming PC part - it'll cost $999. The mid-range Bloomfield will cost $562.
Is it the Western Digital 6400AAKS?? The stock hdd??
View 7 Replies View RelatedI want a mac pro is for storage space and to play games on. I want to use a GTX285 and I also want to run vmware fusion full time. I'd like to have OS X be my main os with Windows 7 and Ubuntu running in the background. So basically i'm not sure if it's better to have like four cores dedicated to Windows 7/Ubuntu while i have my other set of cores dedicated to OS X?
View 5 Replies View RelatedI'm looking into getting a used single quad core 2.66 Nehalem and was wondering does this model have turbro boost and hyperthreading?
View 1 Replies View RelatedI'm about to order a 2x2.26Ghz 8-core Mac Pro.I still have to decide whether to order it with the base hard drive (640GB)or the 1TB hard drive (as the boot drive).What would you recommend? Is the 640GB hard drive faster t
View 5 Replies View RelatedI just found THIS
http://www.maxupgrades.com/istore/in...ategory_id=343
where they state that the max RAM is 16GB. Do they KNOW something? This would throw up in the air all my thinking about which MacPro to buy.
I am an old Mac hand (and before, Apple IIe, IIc, then Mac 128, 512, Plus, Se, IIx.... to a Dual G5 1.8GHz now), but a total newbie as far as Intel is concerned, so please pardon me if my conjectures are completely off whack, and for the large number of questions.
Looking at the ill assorted (in my view, particularly pricewise) lineup of the latest Pros, I have come up with the following ideas:
- Buy a quad 2.66 with up to 8Gb and be happy for the time being (I have 2.5GB now), with better single thread performance than the 2.26 and still 8 thread performance available WHEN there will be apps to use it (none/few of those I use do, as far as I read around, in any case, and even those seem to stop at 2/4 cores anyway).
- IF the 4GB sticks work (I know this is a big if, but given what I just found, there might be hope....), buy them at a later stage when they come down to an acceptable price and get to 16. I see a lot being written around along the lines �Even if they work, they cost more than the computer today.... etc, but RAM prices normally go down fast, so is this really an issue (except if you need 16GB NOW, of course)? And arent 8GB sticks likely to appear later on to get it to 32 if needed?
-Buy a used 2.93 or faster chip in 2-3 years. I have no idea of how cost effective this has historically been. Do prices go down significantly, or am I likely to get in the ballpark of the delta with a used, faster machine, as it often happened in the past with CPU upgrades?
-Are future chips likely to be compatible with the current machine (can someone who understand the Intel roadmap shed some light here?), or would I be limited to the 2.93 which is known to work?
-In case the 4Gb are proven to be unusable and I go for the octo, can changing chips work by replacing the 2.26 at a later stage? Knowing that I would need to buy 2, would the economics still work? It seems more unlikely, or is it?
-I remember reading about using the graphic card chip to reinforce computing power. Is this fact or forecast? Is this true of both Nvidia and ATI or (as I seem to remember) only Nvidia? If so, is it better for the long term to choose the cheaper standard Nvidia or the ATI, which seems better right now?
-Does any of these cards give an advantage over the other NOW in Photoshop, iMovie, Aperture (I have tried it on my G5, but scrolling a large collection of photos is a pain)? I do some video but no #D, nor do I think I will do in the future.
-Last quesstion for those who have a 2009 Pro in their hands, I have had always problems with USB peripherals on my G5. At some point the bus slows down to a crawl, with transfers of 1Mb/s. According to a local vendor the 2008 Pro was similar because he said it was a limitation of USB architecture, is this true? Has there been any improvement with thee better memory architecture of the 2009 Pros?
At any rate, does anyone know how many FLOPS the new Nehalem-based servers push? I'm in the process of designing a high-end server cluster and I'd very much like to be able to use Xserves; however, I cannot seem to find any good performance data (I'm looking for numbers here).
View 24 Replies View RelatedI'm trying to find the processor in the quad core Nehalem, it says it's a Intel Xeon 3500 series processor
But which of these is it?
I have recently bought 2 4GB 1333MHz memory to be used with my Mac Pro mid 2010 nehalem processor. It works fine, turns on and all, but after opening a few programs and letting it run a little and i ask him to shut down, it takes me to the grey screen with the little rolling ball and does not shut down.
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Mac Pro (Mid 2010), Mac OS X (10.7.4)
