Mac Pro :: Gtx285 - How To Check Performance Of 8800gt
Nov 19, 2009
I have a 2008 MP which I ordered with the 8800 GT video card. I decided it was time to upgrade so ordered the nVidia GTX285 for the Mac from [URL]. Installed easy (didn't need the drivers as Snow Leopard already had them) except for the installation of the power cables on the MoBo (fat fingers need not apply ).
So far I like it. I am waiting on Modern Warfare 2 so that will be a good test.
It will be interesting to see how it handles the demands of Crysis2 when it ships after Christmas. The original game was very demanding (don't know why that was so as I just finished Far Cry 2 and the 8800 handled it easy and the graphics were just as good as Crysis).
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Feb 13, 2008
So I was curious to see what the difference would be between10.5.1 to 10.5.2
2 gigs of RAM to 6 gigs of RAM
So, when I first got the Mac Pro I ran both Geekbench and Xbench. I haven't tallied the Geekbench results, but the overall scores go like this:
10.5.1 |2 gigs RAM = 7324 | Memory Score = 2486
10.5.2 |6 gigs RAM = 7793 | Memory Score = 2693
I forgot to run Geekbench with 10.5.2 and 2 gigs of RAM.
Attached are the numbers for Xbench. I also graphed them in Numbers. For all those who enjoy this stuff, here you go.
If someone notices something that seems jacked up with these numbers for this system in its various states of configuration, PLEASE let me know!! I'm not savvy with these benchmarking programs.
I just thought some folks out there would like to see the info.The chart can't fit in all the chart titles, so you'll have to look at the raw data to interpret what belongs to what.
Feedback always appreciated. I'm off to finish loading some Windows programs and my games, and then move that partition to the 400 gig drive, and then tell VMware where to go git 'er done!
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Feb 18, 2008
Has anyone who's gotten one of these tried watching a DVD or playing a game in full screen on a 30" monitor w. no scaling chip (ie the HP LP3065)??? Just curious as to whether the quality is good, I hear the scaling on some cards kindof sucks.
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Nov 16, 2010
How can I test my MBP i7 GPU performance while playing a game (Red Alert 3)? Is there a tool I can use to measure FPS etc? How about GPU temperature? I'm new the GPU performance world, so I would appreciate some education on this.
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Oct 23, 2009
Could any 27" iMac owners post their framerates for WoW here so we can get a feel for how the systems compare to the 24" iMac.
test and report back the following:
1. Processor, GPU, Vram
2. Videosettings used
3. Framerates (ctrl-r) at native resolution in the following locations:
a) Dalaran
b) Stormwind or Ogrimaar
c) 25 man raid
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Aug 27, 2008
I am looking to buy a second graphics card as I now have a third monitor. Will all of the above cards work with an existing 8800GT?
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Jul 21, 2010
I have a 2008 MP 8 core and I want to get a new video card, I have a 8800 in it now, and I need a more powerful card for Win 7 for Flight Simulator. I have 12 GB of ram in the system and I am going to add a 256 SSD for Win 7 and use a WD raptor drive for the Flight Sim. Which is the BETTER video card for the windows side ( dont care about it in OSX ) The GtX285 has 1 GB ram on board and the ATI only has 512mb.. ( like the 8800 ) I dont want to get the GTX 400 series and make it work I rather go with the 4870 or GTX285.
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Jun 13, 2009
I still afraid it can't support when I need to reinstall osx. Can any one tell me that ?
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Jun 20, 2009
I CAN get access to them, but they are in Edit Bays at a friend's Production Office...and the Editors keep weird hours.....and they are wired in with lots of extra video/audio/disk drive stuff that I have to disconnect/move....and if one died or I caused bad Hard Drive corruption I would be SHOT ON SIGHT......etc.
So, if there is a video card enthusiast in Hollywood,CA area who has an EFI-64 Machine and would like to be part of this experiment, PM me.
FYI...there is a good chance this will work...on the other hand, there is also a good chance that Apple/Nvidia/EVGA placed an additional STOP to flashing and upon boot we will see a lovely black screen.
Whats in it for you? Immortal, undying glory ! A beer ! And when I figure out full process, I will make one for you with GTX285 you bring me. gratis
I have removed the 128K chip it came with and installed a 256K chip. I then flashed Mac EFI ROM onto it. On my first Gen it runs exactly as before. Boots into OSX with help of Netkas Injector Package, but not until desktop. (also requires additional Nvidia card)
It appears to be ignoring the Mac EFI due to it being 64 instead of the 32 it "requires".
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Aug 15, 2009
Don't get me wrong, the (apple-shipped) 8800GT has never given me a moment's worth of problem but it would seem that if there is OpenCL support for the GTX285 in SL next month, it may be worth it to drop the coin and get this card (I'll take it as a business expense).
Has anyone heard or seen something about officially supporting this card? When I looked on Apple's website under SL tech specs, this card isn't listed.
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Sep 27, 2010
I have a GT120 and a GTX285 running one ACD 30" and two ACD 20"... I'm selling my 30" to get the all new ACD 27"... I'm also thinking of selling off the two 20's as well... Does this also mean that I need to sell my GT120 and GTX285 and either get a 5770 or 5870 to make the ACD 27" work?
What are my options? I know the 5870 is not available... I'm not a big gamer or graphics designer, but love the best!
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Jun 14, 2009
"Test "Mule" was the Nehalem Mac Pro 8-core running at 2.93GHz (12G of RAM)."
From what I understand, the above configuration could actually slow down frame-rate because it is unnecessary extra hardware?
Would frame-rate improve slightly by using a Quad-Core Mac Pro with 6GB of RAM, or am I not understanding?
(And assuming this is on OSX, but you can answer both ways).
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Jul 14, 2009
What way is there to be able to use this card with the ACD? From what i know it doesn't have a mini display port that the ACD features!
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Jun 8, 2010
As the Title of The Post says, i need to know if Apple Hardware check, Does check the hard drive. I'm getting a little bit more frequent hard drive clicks so i want to make sure my HD is not failing. So i need to know as so as possible if Apple hardware check looks for Hard drive Problems. And if it does not. Can someone point me into some Utilities i can use?
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Apr 12, 2008
couldn't find an answer so far: Is it possible to run 2x 8800GT (Apple or flashed PC) in one Mac Pro 2008? I know, SLI doesn't work but I am curious if I can run 2 monitors (e.g. for FSX in Bootcamp). Did anyone try this or is this outside the Power-limits of the PCI bus?
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Apr 23, 2008
This is the 'upgrade' card that is for my new mac pro... I got one when I ordered the machine... near as I can tell I should be able install a second one. Is that true?
NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GT (early 2008) Graphics Upgrade Kit for Mac Pro
The NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GT features 512MB of dedicated GDDR3 memory, uses the PCI Express 2.0 interface, and includes two dual-link DVI ports.
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Nov 30, 2008
I am using 7300GT and 8800GT on my 2.66 Mac Pro But my mac can't enable OpenGL on Photoshop. (Because 7300GT not support Open GL?) Can I buy one more 8800GT to replace 7300GT? Than have 2 8800GT on my Mac. Need to add one more PSU? or just use another 6 pins power on Logic Board?
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Feb 20, 2008
I bought my machine about 3 weeks ago (8 core 2.8ghz), didn't think I'd need the graphics as I'm a console gamer so I stuck with the ATI 2600XT.
Over the past week I've really been getting into gaming on my mac pro (the 12gb of Ram helps!)
Can I buy an off the shelf 8800GT and upgrade the card myself or do I need a special apple voodoo version?
also, if I can buy one, anyone know which? I have no idea and so far online I've seen -
Xpertvision 8800GT 512mb
Gigabyte NVidia 8800GT 512MB
RETAIL XFX NVIDIA 8800 GT 512mb
and about 10 others, all claiming to be the 8800GT but the prices vary
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Mar 13, 2008
On my 2008 MacPro, I have two 8800GT's working fine in all regards to normal Desktop Usage. But in World of Warcraft, when I move the WoW window onto either screen on card 2, the frame rate drops to less than 10fps. If I move it back to either screen on card one, its fast again. This may be a localized issue with WoW.
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Mar 18, 2008
All we know the [URL] test about the 2600 are be better for pro apps... I dont know if its true or what but with if its true with drivers update in the future the 8800gt can be a better card that 2600, I hope so I order the 8800gt!
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May 30, 2008
Haven't seen anyone mention this yet, has the performance improved with the update?
Edit:
Answered my own question. :P
[URL]
Definitive "no"
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Mar 29, 2009
I have an early 2008 2.8x8, want something that will work in OSX (both DVI dual-link possibly) and also be much better in Boot Camp than my 2600HD.
So, which is better . . . 3870 vs 8800gt? Or another?
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Sep 15, 2009
After about a year and a half, my EVGA 8800gt has gone bad, screen corruption, and eventual freezes, etc. and no problems with the original 7300gt in the machine. The part number on it is 512-P3-N801-AR, and it was used in a launch (1,1) mac pro.
Not a problem, the card has a lifetime warranty, my only concern is if I get a different card back from them. I have in the past, and just recently had a friend, perform a exchange with EVGA and had them send back a different card than was sent (it's always been a better card so no complaints at the time), but of course that would be an issue with the EFI32 firmware, etc. So if they end up being unable to send me another 8800gt which ones would be ok? I've read a bit about 9800gts flashed with the 8800 software working, etc.
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Apr 7, 2008
I was just wondering if you can overclock the 8800gt from its stock rating? If you can is there any real benefit? And lastly if you can and there is a benefit how do I go about doing this?
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Apr 8, 2008
I am in the market to buy a Mac Pro, and I have been reading through the forums and I couldn't find any straight forward information on how to install a 8800GT PC version graphics card on the Mac Pro. On the [URL] Store it says that for an upgrade 8800GT costs $349.99, damn expensive.. as the [URL] price is $119.99 after rebates. I am really hoping that I can opt out and just get the stock ATI Radeon 2600XT and then buy the PC 8800GT to put in with it. How do you install the PC version 8800GT?
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May 7, 2008
I have been beating my head against a wall for weeks trying to boot into Windows. So after weeks of searching for a solution and many attempts of re-installing both Windows and OSX. I am at the mercy of some of the very MAC wise folks here. So I will try and be as brief as I can.
I have a first gen Mac Pro that has worked great since I bought it in 2006. I have bought a Gforce 8800GT 1st gen upgrade video card. Bought it the first day it shipped, like a lot of other people. I followed the the thread that pushed apple for a upgrade for us early adopters. And am glad that apple listened to their customers and made a compatible ROM for the card.
So now to my problem and why I think it maybe a EFI issue. While waiting and reading about the then rumored video card upgrade, I tried to use a PC version of the 8800 GT, same card with a PC ROM. Well If I would of read more first I would of known that it would not work, and was really just taking a chance and thought that somewhere someone would make this work. Boy was I wrong. So after taking out the card and putting back in my 7300 stock card, I can no longer boot into windows. I get a blue screen stop error 0X000000CA (0X0000002, 0X89A0B0C0, 0X00000000, 0X00000000). Didn't turn up much searching for that error. So the symptom I have is as follows: power on holding down the option key, click on my windows disk partition on a separate NTFS formated HD, the computer try's to boot into windows, but after just a quick flash of Windows XP splash screen then straight to the blue screen. Now fast forward a week. apple releases the upgrade, took the PC cad back, ordered the MAC upgrade hopping this would fix the problem, It didn't. So I do a total re-install. I totaly reinstall OSX on a fresh HD, run all updates for 10.5.2. I put in another fresh drive in and run Boot camp to install a fresh copy of XP. The CD installs the startup files to RAM, then enters the setup partition/format screen. I chose new partition select NTFS full option, the HD formats. Now windows loads the install files to the hard drive and reboots. Now I am back to where I started. OSX works perfect XP will not even install new, much less boot into the old partition that is on another HD that I have pulled out right now, I also went back to the 7300, no change. I can hit F8 and get the advanced menu, if I select safe mode it freezes and goes to blue screen. If I move either of the cards to another slot I get the same result but the Mac Pro reboots in an endless cycle after a quick blue flash. In the 16x slot it just freezes on the blue screen.
So after searching for someone with the same problem it seems I cannot find a solution other then what I have read about EFI and that it is basically emulating a BIOS so windows can boot up on the Intel hardware. So am I even thinking in the right area? Have I some how corrupted the EFI firmware? Any suggestions? I bought the Mac Pro to run Pro Tools in windows along with Windows only apps. I use final cut pro in OSX, but I spend most of my time in Windows using the awesome power of the machine. I like OSX but it is not a total OS solution for me, I really like having a hybrid, and VM's and such in OSX will not work with Pro Tools.
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Nov 2, 2008
What would be better for gaming under bootcamp?
8800gt vs 2 3870 crossfire
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Mar 12, 2009
Got my 2009 2.26 today and I'm just getting things setup. My initial plan was to place the 8800gt from my 2007 2.6 quad core in the machine along with the default 120gt until i could get the 4870 upgrade. To my dismay I have not been able to get the 8800gt to work It appears as if the 8800gt that I have isn't recognized! Does anyone know why this might happen? Was there an EFI change between the two? I also tried the orig. 7300gt that came with my previous box and received the same results.
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Jun 8, 2009
Would I have to flash the rom of a Mac pro 8800GT to get it to work in a PC? If so, can someone point me to ROM? Also would it get flashed while inserted in the PC?
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Oct 14, 2009
I may buy an 08' Mac Pro that comes with a 8800GT is the GT120 a step up at all? if I decide to get a new graphics card (which I really may not since I don't game at all) would the GT120 be an upgrade or would I have to go to 4870? Those two cards are both compatible right?
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