MacBook Pro :: Frequent Heat Shortening Life?
Dec 13, 2010
I'm kinda concerned about my MBP, though nothing's been happening to it as of yet.Basically, I've been putting it through a lot of gaming and encoding recently (this thing performs like a champ).I'm just concerned that any of this could potentially shorten the MBP's life.
I know that excessive heat can shorten logic board life.When encoding, the CPU's around 200-205 degrees Fahrenheit, same for gaming.The fans run fine, and it feels to be about the same temperature every time (I use smcFan Control in OSX and Lubbos in Windows 7).
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Jul 31, 2010
does the 17 run cooler than the 15? how about i5 vs i7 for heat?
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May 19, 2010
A truly non scientific test ...
The '09 15" MBP C2D 2.8ghz, 512vram comparing to April/10 15" MBP i7, 512vram both have 4gb ram and 256ssd.
The '09 allows the user to choose the graphic card setting but you have to log out first ...
The new '10 MBP has 'auto switching' and decides what to do for you, (until Apple releases a fix, which many feel they won't do).
In our experience the '09 MBP runs cool, noticeably cooler on your lap for example in integrated mode .... But when you switch to the discrete card then you can feel it's quite a lot warmer.
Battery Meter - On full battery, switching from discrete to integrated mode adds 1 hour 41 minutes.
With the new 2010 models choosing to run in discrete mode, even when seemingly unnecessary it makes the machine feel much warmer on the bottom almost uncomfortable. That was noticed in the '09 MBP too when only when running in discrete mode, but when running in integrated it runs very cool.
Battery life is about the same on both machines, Apple advertises it increased over the '09 models, in our real world experience not the case.
This first step into Intel Graphics and these being first version machines unless you really need to upgrade now I wouldn't ... If you have an '09 or an '08 MBP chances are it's doing it work just fine and you'll notice minimal improvements and perhaps take a step backward going from Nvidia graphics to this new Intel idea .... it's not perfected yet.
Therefore unless you need/want to run in discrete mode often I'd wait until the next revision/update or at least until the graphics switching concerns are addressed by Apple.
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Jun 10, 2010
ive read many threads on this but havent received any conclusion to the battery life. and mixed opinions on the noise....anyone have both stock 5400rpm along with this one and done a comparison? is the speed worth it? is it still faster than the average 7200rpm once the 4gb SDD flash has been used up? my biggest concern is noise and battery life.
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Sep 24, 2009
I'm new here to this forum and I'd like to get some advice. I've had my 2008 macbook 2.4ghz-160gb since august of last year. I upgraded it to 4gb of ram in the early stages and had no issues till lately.
For the last week, almost daily, Id get the beachball for a long period of time. This happens most frequently when I surf the internet. Occasionally this may occur when i play music in itunes but that is probably due to my library being store on an external hd. With that being said though, as I mentioned, it most likely occurs when I surf the internet. Many times, its not just a browser crash but a system wide crash where my mouse can move but when i click anything in the background, it would have no effect (but my mouse can move still). Only way to 'resolve' this was to do a hard shutdown and restart by holding the power button for few seconds. Of course, this issue keeps happening and it pissed me off so I looked around the net to find some possible solutions and many sites claimed flash being an issue. I uninstalled flash and retested and the problem still occurred. Reading maclife, it mentioned about some fsck -fy thing during boot up so i ran that test and found no errors. Restarted again, did some surfing and still the problem.
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Dec 8, 2014
My MacBook Air has required a PRAM reset twice recently. Why is this? What can I do to prevent this?
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MacBook Air, iOS 8.1
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Jan 7, 2011
I open and close my 2010 MBP a lot. Maybe 15 times per day. Am I running the risk of breaking a cable between the base and screen or something? Should I just set it down and let it run?
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Jul 21, 2009
I have a new (June 09 model) 15" MacBook Pro, 2.66 GHz and I'm experiencing frequent (every 3-5 minute) drop outs on my wireless internet connection, but only when I'm running Mac OS X-- my Windows Vista Ultimate partition is operating flawlessly. After Googling, I have come to the conclusion that this is extremely common in MBPro's since there is such a saturation of search results?
Background on the wireless networks used:
- home: 128-bit WEP-open
- work: WPA2-Enterprise
Again, I haven't experienced a single disconnect when running the following:
- Vista - wireless
- Vista - wired
- Mac OS X - wired
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Apr 19, 2012
I have a 2010 MacBook Pro running the latest iteration of Lion. Recently, the computer has experienced frequent kernel panics (three today alone) requiring the laptop to be restarted. I have noticed that these tend to occur more frequently when I wake the computer after letting the battery drain down to near or below ten percent of its capacity and subsequently plugging it in after it goes to sleep.
The only other clue I have is that every time the computer experiences a kernel panic and restarts, Spotlight re-indexes my hard drive (i.e., the magnifying glass icon in the upper-right-hand corner of my screen has the little blinking red dot inside of it).
I have read a couple of things on the internet about how this may be due to Symantec Anti-Virus, which I have installed on my computer. However, that is pure speculation on my part based on a random post on a non-Apple-sponsored discussion board somewhere.
Info:
MacBook Pro (13-inch Mid 2010), Mac OS X (10.7.3)
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Dec 13, 2009
For a few days now, my 13" MBP (purchased in August; painfully clean-install upgraded to Snow Leopard in October) has been freezing into spinning wheel mode randomly every few minutes. It would seem that this happens particularly often in web browsers (but also when no browsers are operating and I'm typing away in Text Edit or chatting in Adium and Skype). When the browsers are on, the FlashPlayer would occasionally crash. No matter what app froze first, whatever else I click on also freezes.
The freezes happen most frequently after the computer has been to sleep and woken up by opening the lid. The wheels go spinning for up to two minutes, and then everything goes back to normal (for up to 3 mins before freezing again). The longer the comp operates after that, the rarer they become, and after a few hours they rarely happen at all (then again, some times they do anyway). On some occasions, everything freezes so badly I need to hard-reset, and then it takes the comp upwards of 15 minutes to reboot - and then everything keeps freezing, of course. Contrary to other reports of similar problems here, no CPU jumps appear to be happening during the freeze. I tried:
- Running Disk Utility after booting from Snow Leopard . Some permissions (which in forums here were referred to as inconsequential / not related to freezes) were repaired; HD in general "seems to be ok."
- Running RAM tests (with Rember, supposedly updated to Snow Leopard). Everything seemed fine
- Getting rid of the ARD agent (which was related to some of the permissions mentioned earlier)
- Stopping Bluetooth (as someone here with a similar problem thought it helped)
- Installing the Beta Adobe Flash Reader (same as above)
Nothing helped. I really don't want to take it to the lab; I live in Israel and the comp was purchased in the States, which means that the only licensed lab here reserves the right to keep the comp for up to 26 working days
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Jun 17, 2012
I have an early 2011 17" MacBook Pro which is freezing up a lot, this only seems to happen with iTunes is loaded. The machine runs perfectly when iTunes isn't running, and it'll run for a little while when it is open, but then eventually all programs will freeze, leaving only the cursor moving. That will then stop moving as well and the entire machine will stay stuck as it is - the only thing that can be done at this point is to power it off. Closing the lid has no effect - the screen stays on and the machine does not sleep.
I've tried various things to fix this based on other threads with similar issues:
- Reset SMC and PRAM
- Reinstalled iTunes
- Disabled automatic graphic card switching
- Installed all latest updates - this seems to have made the problem worse
- Stopped my iPod touch and iPhone from syncing over wifi and made sure they aren't plugged in either
- Ran AHT, no problems reported
- Repaired disk permissions
- Reinstalled Mac OS
- Left the machine in its frozen state to see if it would wake up (it didn't, even after leaving it all night)
Every time this happens, I have a look at the Console to see if any errors were logged during the crash, but it seems there aren't any - the last few lines before reboot are always different and seem to have no real pattern to them.
Specs:
Early 2011 17" Macbook Pro Intel Core i7 2.3GHz
8GB RAM
Mac OS X 10.7.4
iTunes 10.6.3
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MacBook Pro, Mac OS X (10.7.4),
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Sep 6, 2014
I have a mbpr with 10.9.4 Mavericks. It's been only a week since I got it and Safari just keep showing up this error in most of the sites I try to visit. Seriously it is so annoying. I try not to use other browser since Safari uses very little power from the battery.
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MacBook Pro (Retina, 15-inch, Late 2013), OS X Mavericks (10.9.4)
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Sep 1, 2014
My friend has been having trouble with his 15 inch, early 2011 macbook pro. He is running OS X 10.9.4
It seems to work great until he streams media or connects to his school email.
I've taken a picture of what the screen looks like when it last froze while he checked his email:
Shortly after this, he had trouble booting the macbook back up. He would see either a blue screen with light and dark blue vertical lines. He would also boot up the computer and it would be stuck on the white loading screen without the apple logo.
I also have the console logs for the past few bootups:
9/1/14 6:09:13.000 PM bootlog[0]: BOOT_TIME 1409609353 0 9/1/14 6:09:35.000 PM kernel[0]: vm_page_bootstrap: 808086 free pages and 232298 wired pages
9/1/14 6:09:35.000 PM kernel[0]: rooting via boot-uuid from /chosen: B4D1584E-DF66-3E8D-BED3-BF7EB17C5F80
9/1/14 6:09:35.000 PM kernel[0]: Waiting on <dict ID="0"><key>IOProviderClass</key><string ID="1">IOResources</string><key>IOResourceMatch</key><string ID="2">boot-uuid-media</string></dict>
[code].....
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OS X Mavericks (10.9.4)
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Jun 25, 2014
Recently purchased a macbook air and facing frequent internet disconnection issue when the macbook goes to the power save. Once after the interrupt i found the internet connection was no longer alive.
Product description:
Device: Macbook air
Model No: A1465
OS: OSX version: 10.9.2
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Dec 2, 2014
My Macbook Air (OS X; version10.7.5) with 2 GB of memory is now getting the frequent appearance of the 'color wheel' preventing me from performing any functions. What does this mean and how do I correct the problem?
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MacBook Air, Mac OS X (10.7.5)
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Apr 22, 2012
I installed a Momentus XT 750 (ST750LX003-1AC154 firmware SM12) into my MacBook Pro (late 2009). I then did a full clean install of OSX 10.7 and updated to 10.7.3. Lately I have been getting odd hangs of applications and eventually the OS, finally I have to hard-power it down and reboot.
No SMART errors reported, PRAM and SMC have been reset. I am on the latest firmware and EFI for this particular MacBook Pro. I do not think that this drive is spinning down if idle.
As far as I know there is not a firmware update for the XT 750 drive and I am on SM12.
What else can I try to get this machine stable? This is a 750GB hybrid SSD drive and I read about lots of issues with SSD and hybrid-SSD drives in previous generation MacBook Pros, particularly with Lion.
Info:
MacBook Pro, Mac OS X (10.7.3), seagate momentus XT 750GB
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Aug 26, 2010
i think my macbook is running rather hot lately as I have the fan set at 6200(max) and it seems to idle at 50C and I had skype running with a few people and it was reaching 80C! It never used to get that high before! It is a Dec31st 06 (lol 1 day from 07) model and I do have the ability to open these models and apply the thermal paste again as I have done plenty times before and also fit Mac Pro serviceable options such as BT and AP
I know how to open it and clean it but theres no dust in it to make it that hot I might have to try max load and see if it overheats
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May 16, 2009
Bought a macbook air recently and enjoy using it to listen to music and work while laying in the sunshine, only i have noticed it gets increadibly hot and when watching a movie cant quite play it smoothly as it seems to be affected by the heat. The aluminium obviously heats up easilyShould I avoid using it in the sunlight? Are there any addons i can get to keep it cool? Anyone know anything?Temperatures here in southern Spain now in the summer tend to be around 30?c (air temperature) but more in direct sunlight.
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Oct 24, 2010
How is the heat/fan performance on your new MBA?
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Jan 13, 2011
I am designing a stand that will allow me to slide my Mac underneath my Dell U2410 basically. It will be made of wood, and the mac portion will be raised ~1" from the desk. The front and back will be open, and I'm also going to make slots for the optical drive as well as a hole in the left side for I/O. However I also want to make sure it doesn't get too hot. So basically I'm wondering if there is a central place where the heat essentially "exits?" I was thinking of putting a few holes into the board so that the heat could leave the stand that way...but any other ideas?
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Apr 11, 2008
I left my mba open, with the screen saver on, not running any programs for about 2 hours. Came back and the fan is at 6200rpm and the CPU temp is 180 degrees. It hasnt been doing anything at all. I dont understand why it is working so hard. What should I do?
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Oct 14, 2008
Once anyone gets to test the new MBA out (next month?), if you can please post the results on heat issues. Eg the initial MBA in many cases was only usable at 50% CPU/GPU (for more than a few minutes) due to heat issues. Does the new one fix it? If so, it is effectively more than double the speed.. more like 3-4x faster if that makes sense. If GPU is much faster AND heat issues are fixed, this could be a huge performance boost..
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Jan 20, 2009
I am 99% going for the MBA. Now the question is HDD or SSD?!I have read all comments about speed difference but I would like to know the difference in heat between the two. Really dislikes heat in a laptop and hence if there is a difference between the two
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Apr 22, 2009
i left my macbook running while i was installing windows had an error and had to leave in a hurry didn't know it was not in sleep and it was left on in a incase for around 20 minutes, will the safe shutoff kick even if its not booted up. it should be fine right? it felt very hot to the touch but was only around 77c on boot up.
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May 14, 2010
I went in to the Apple Store yesterday to buy a MacBook pro 15". I currently have a 2009 13" MacBook Pro. I decided to go top of the line with the i7 even though the Apple Sale Person said I didn't need the speed. I wanted to not look back later and say I should have gotten the best. What I noticed last night was I had it on my lap on battery power doing my normal surfing. On flash sites it got a bit uncomfortable on my lap. About 70 degrees C. I have never noticed it before on my 13". Should I take it back for an i5 and would that make any difference or is all of this just normal for this type of computer?
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Jun 6, 2010
I use my MBP (Unibody, 2.8Ghz, 4GB RAM, running 10.6) in clamshell mode connected to an Apple Cinema Display ... Been doing that for a year and a half now and never had any problems.Now, since a week or so, my MBP keeps shutting down randomly, probably due to heat issues.So I installed SMCFanControl and run it at max RPM. Still no help.My system reaches over 90?C before it shuts down.Now I disconnected my MBP from everything (ACD, speakers, external HD, iPhone dock, Ethernet cable) and when running on its own off battery power, the temperature has already dropped down to 60?C and it stopped shutting down.
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Jun 8, 2010
I am looking at a new MB or MBP and since I prefer the screen on the MB my other concern would be heat generation.How is the new MB vs the MBP 13 and 15 versions?I want to be able to use it on my lap...!
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Jun 23, 2010
Received my i7 MBP yesterday, and try to run parallels, TVU player, safari, aperture side by side, and it's not over heat at all, just felt slightly warm above the CPU, it's amazing! especially compare to my 1st gen MBP. I don't have to use my coolermaster cooling pad at all.
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Mar 6, 2012
Why does the macbook pro heat up during skype use? And is making a noise like it is working too hard...
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Apr 4, 2012
Today at school, I was using my laptop as normal. During lunch time I just closed the laptop display screen (so it goes on standby) and placed it in my bag. 1 hour and a half later, I go into my bag to reach for my book. My whole bag and books were VERY warm. I touched my laptop case to find that it was even warmer. I pulled out my laptop and I had to set it down immediately because it was far too hot to touch; eggs could have been fried on it (no exagerration). I was scared to open it, so I placed it outside in the cool air and now it has cooled down and I've started up again. This has never happened before, I've never dropped it and my laptop is just a year old this month (convenient now, that the guarantee just expired ).Problems first started occuring when I updated to Lion. First thing I noticed, is that it starts up and shuts down SO slowly (slower than a PC, believe it or not) and I only have 53,15 GB out of the 319,21 GB available used. So there is 266 GB FREE space. So I figured this cannot be the memory. After 2 months or so, I also noticed that when I turn on my computer, the Apple sign on the startup comes out very stretched, sometimes it comes up on the left hand corner and the rest of the screen isn't white but coloured lines. 3 days ago, I noticed the fan was making a funny sound. This stopped 2 days later, then today randomly on standby it beyond heated up. Why is this happening? MUST I go to the shop? (I'm a student and cannot afford 500EUR repairs at the moment, other than the fact I cannot live without my laptop for 6-8 weeks as I have all my coursework to do, etc.)
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MacBook Pro (15-inch Mid 2010), Mac OS X (10.7.3)
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