Windows On Mac :: 7 32-bit Versus 64-bit On 27"
Oct 27, 2009
I wanted to let you know of my experiences attempting to install Windows 7 Professional on my brand new iMac 27".
I purchased the machine new on 10/24/2009. It has the ATI 4670 video card, not the Nvidia.
I made four seperate attempts to install Windows 7 Professional 64-bit. Each attempt fails the exact same way. When Windows Setup is on the final reboot prior to completing the install, it starts up and displays a message, "Starting Services". Then it displays a message box stating that a problem occurred and windows needed to reboot to continue setup.
On a side note: I also have a copy of Windows 7 32-bit Professional. After formatting the BootCamp partition, the 32-bit version installed with zero problems (black screen aside). If you plug a second monitor into the Mac the display is actually on that monitor.
If anyone can offer any advice on how to overcome installing the 64-bit version, that is what I really want. I'm holding off on activating this copy of windows for a few days to see if anyone can offer a solution to the problem installing the 64-bit edition.
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Feb 14, 2009
I've heard Office:Mac isn't that great, and doesn't make up for what iWork 09 is missing. So I'm wondering what people think about it and why does it get such a bland reputation? Also, do people use a combination of the above? Such as iWork and Office:Windows? Both Offices? I do mainly word processing, some soft Excel work (no hardcore giant spreadsheets...yet), and general PowerPoints for presentations. I have access to cheap iWork/Offices (school discount) and a family pack of the top-level edition of Office:PC (family) so it isn't a big deal to get any of the above.
Lastly, what's the difference between Camino and Firefox? I use Firefox currently and love it, mainly due to the add-ons (weather at the bottom, Gmail alert, skins, page views, other customizations). Tabs seem to be on all browsers these days, so are there any other key differences?
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I'm looking for a new monitor to go with my MBP, and I'm stuck trying to choose between the ones listed above.
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I've heard good reviews of the G2410, with its LED backlighting. It's still a TN panel and I hear so much bad stuff about them.
The 2209WA is an eIPS panel which I like the sound of, but it's smaller and lower resolution.
The F2380 is a cPVA panel, the image quality looks better but I've heard bad things about blacks on this panel.
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Oct 7, 2009
I have Windows 7 Ultimate x64 RTM via BootCamp on my Unibody Macbook.
Specs:
2.0 Core 2
4GB DDR3
The 64-bit kernel was used for both the 32 and the 64-bit SL tests.
The 64-bit version of Geekbench for Mac is a slightly older version (2.1.2 vs 2.1.4) not sure if that makes a difference.
The Difference between Win7 x64 and SL x64 was very small. What I found interesting was the large difference between the 32-bit tests.
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I bought Windows 7 today (Premium version) and it came with both a 32-bit disc and a 64-bit disc. I'm just wondering if there are any real significant advantages to using the 64-bit version. The specs of my MBP are in my sig.
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Latest OS whether it is windows or OSX, would always have learnt something from its predecessors and competitors and in some extent would be better. Some new OS represent a big step forward (windows XP or leopard), others a small step (vista or snow leopard). Microsoft suffered because they took a small step forward with XP when Apple took a big step with leopard and now it is Apple's turn to suffer when Microsoft takes a big step with Seven vs. Apple's small step forward with SL.
I went for a better product switching to Mac at that time when time comes around for my next computer; it won't be a Mac just because I am a Mac user. It will be whichever is a better product at that time in both features and value. Whether it is a PC or a Mac, because a computer is a computer is a computer.
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So when the windows 7 beat was launched, i ended up choosing to download the 32-bit version as I knew it would run, and I wasn't sure if I was compatible or not.
1. I have a 20" iMac 2.4GHz 2GB RAM etc. Is my computer capable of running 64-bit?
2. Whats the difference between 32-bit and 64-bit? Is 64-bit faster?
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This does not seem to work for me in Lion. When I select Macintosh HD or "this mac" or click on the Applications folder (where I know it exists) and type "shakeyt" in the search box (or in the spotlight search box) the only results that I get are a couple of emails that contain the word "shakeyt". I have looked through all the finder and system preferences to see if I have something set wrong but cannot find anything. Isn't there somewhere in this OS that you can simply type a word and it will show you all instances of this word (file names, text references, etc)?
Info:
MacBook Pro, Mac OS X (10.7.3)
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Here are my concerns:
1) I'm going to be moving from the US to Ireland in a couple of months (not sure for how long, could be years+) Obviously there's the whole NTSC vs. PAL, ATSC vs. DVB.
I know with EyeTV 250 it's either or, any ideas if buying some sort of converter is an option (prices, quality)? If I bought just a PAL one, would I still be able to convert VHS or would it be completely unusable in the US?
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Does this mean they'll be useless once the US undergoes the conversion?
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Jun 30, 2009
I ran some tests on my 2009 Quad Nehalem to try and determine what was up with the triple Vs dual memory "brouhaha".
I posted the results as a new thread because I think it will be useful information for a lot of quad owners, but it was originally going to be a reply to this thread: http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=735845
Here we go. Tesselator suggested 3 tests that could show the differences in speed between triple and dual channel bandwidth.
Quote:
As one idea I would maybe try creating a few very large images (16-bit, blank white, blank black, gradient fill) and then duplicating and deleting that layer repeatedly a few hundred times.
So I did them, 10 times each. I could have gone on, but the results were very very stable after the first 2 attempts.
Set-up: a 40Mpx, 16bit image (8000*5000). First test it was simply filled white; second test: black; and third test a black to white gradient. I added a fourth test, using a real (photo) 12Mpx RAW image from my Nikon D300.
I created (took a while!) an action with 350 repetitions of "duplicate layer" and "delete layer", followed by a red fill to let me know the action was done. The same action was used in all four tests.
The computer was restarted before each of the four tests, which may explain the irregularities on the first 1-2 attempts. Nothing else but PS4 was launched.
The results are interesting:
We can clearly see that the simple white and black fills show a speed difference of around 10%.
We can also clearly see that this difference disappears when a more complex image is used. The use of more complex images represents a much more realistical use of PS.
To make things even more realistic, I also tested RetouchActions's speed test on my own 12Mpx image. I use nearly all of the operations of that action on a daily basis, so it's a lot more representative of the work I do on PS.
Here are the results:
The results are clear: 11% increase in performance using 8GB of ram (Vs 6GB) when working on a 12Mpx image.
Added info: number of page-outs after running the 10 test series (after about 45 minutes of intense PS work):
-17K when using 6GB (1.7K page-out avg).
-10K when using 8GB (1K page-out avg).
For me the results are definitive: unless I plan on working only with full black or full white images (not even black and white!), having 8GB is better, even when working on smallish 12Mpx files. I imagine the differences would have been even greater using bigger file sizes of actual complex images.
What would now be interesting: someone with a 2009MP Octo doing the same tests at 12GB and 16GB.
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