PowerPC :: IBook G4 Hard Drive Or Logic Board Failure
Jan 15, 2008
I was just wondering if anyone could help me with this. the iBook that I just inherited from my aunt, (She got a new MB) was working yesterday, whenever the power shut-off on it. (It has a power issue on the logic board, and if it comes unplugged it dies, even though it has a new battery.) so she went to work, and attempted to power it on, it came up, and the apple was on the screen, and the spinner came up, nad it spun for a very long time, eventually the screen flashed, and turned blue, and the spinner came again. After around 15 minutes, she was given the kernal panic screen. She held down the power button, and restarted, only to come up with the old finder face, and a question mark. I rush over with my disc's, and load up the disk utility. It was repairing the disk, and about 3/4 of the way through, it had an error. So, I rebooted, and we got an apple, and it repeated the previous situation, and gave the blue screen, followed by a kernel panic. This time I ran the hardware test, and it says that the logic board passed, but there was an issued with the harddrive.
At first disk utility could find the hard drive, and it reported it as being a 2 TB drive!!!!!!! So I got suspicous about that, and after the hardware test, the computer was reporting that there was no hard drive in the computer at all. we know for a fact that the drive was either 50, or 80Gb's, (90% sure 80) My question to you is: Is this the hard drive that has gone bad, or, is it the controller on the logicboard needing to be replaced?
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Nov 5, 2009
My iMac G5 is basically dead. Logic board failure. Apple is going to replace it by giving me a credit toward the purchase of a new iMac but that is a different story. I need to send my G5 back to them. Can I take the internal hard drive out and transfer the data to a PC and then get that data off the PC onto an external HD?
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Sep 9, 2009
My PowerBook G4 (Alum) died. I've had it for 4 years, taken it with me to Alaska and all over the lower 48, and have had nothing but happy experiences. I knew she was gonna go, but I was hoping she'd hold on until I could afford a MacBook. Alas, no. The problem appears to be the ability of the logic board to communicate with the hard drive. I can hear the HD spin, but even with Disk Warrior, I cannot locate it. The Mac Geniuses at my local Apple store confirmed this and gave me a shoulder to cry on. I've run Disk Warrior, Disk Utility, and tried finding it using the target disk mode - no luck.
The problem is that I've got 4 years of teaching materials, 6000 songs, and irreplaceable pictures on the HD, so I can't bring myself to just trash it. It's true that you only fail to back up you stuff once. This is my once. I've heard that with PC hard drives, you can just drop the old HD into a USB HD box and use it as an external HD. I can't afford professional data retrevial, and I want to give this option a try if it'll work with a Mac HD. Any ideas or suggestions?
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Mar 18, 2009
First Mac Attack, must say I like working on these things, I'm working on a friends late 2004 ibook g4 that seems to boot up fine, but with lines across screen exactly like this one found in google images. Most of the info I've come across seems to point to a logic board failure, but also have seen posts relating to LCD failure. wondering if any here have encountered this and what eventually found was problem. This ibook is litterally on the verge of just being replaced anyway. I'm only working on it because It's a first, and believe the education is valuable.
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Sep 15, 2006
I was using my mom's 500 mhz G3 iBook circa 2k1, running 10.2.0 and it decided to start tweaking out on me. Being a somewhat aware computer person, I thought tat a simple restart would fix all of this. Shows you how much I know. Anyway, the boot-up screen showed the icon of the file with the question mark inside. Find the OS 9 CD that we have and I booted up through the CD. I finish starting up and, to my surprise, the drive appears to be erased- the computer asks me if I want to initialize the disk. I hit cancel and proceed to run the disk repair on the OS 9 CD. After it's done scanning, the the results are: "Missing Thread Record, 62078, 4260". What does it all mean? Will the computer be able to recover? What fate lies in store for the iBook?
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Oct 23, 2007
I'm looking fore some help/opinions on a friends iBook G3 800/30GB/256MB/10.2.8the problem is- when you press the power button, it powers on and you hear the (all is ok) chime. now sometimes it will boot perfectly fine and others you get nothing, just a blank screen.Now i know these things were notorious for logic board failure, but could this just simply be the HD, and if it is, how easy is it to change.
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Feb 29, 2008
How do I fix it? I assume the Repair program is expired, so how would I go about fixing it myself?
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Apr 6, 2007
Can you put a 800Mhz g3 logic board in 700Mhz g3? I read somewhere that I will have grounding issues. Is that true? Has anyone done this? My ibook has been sitting here unused for the last 4 months and I would like to see if I could get it working. (The video chip has died and I have tried to get it back)
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Jul 11, 2007
my G3 iBook's logic board has died (it was in that series that had the logic board problem). I had it replaced once already when it was under warrenty. However, the second one has died and Apple will not touch it (unless I pay something like $350 for Apple to fix it). Well, I decided to take matters into my own hands and I ripped open my iBook piece by piece. Now that I have the logic board in front of me, what can I do to fix it? Can I sodder something? Should I take it out and buy a new one off ebay?
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Aug 12, 2006
I need to know if I can put a 12" 900mhz G3 logic board in my 800mz g3 iBook case.
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Sep 30, 2006
Does any one know if I can put a faster logic board in a 12" 1.07 ghz iBook? Something like a 1.2 ghz from ebay or something? Would it use the same ram?
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Oct 16, 2006
My logic board is getting ready to crap out for the third time. I hadn't planned on wasting $$ on replacing it, but I have a friend who has an old iBook with a dead screen who told me I could have it. So, my quetion is how hard is it to switch out the logic boards? Has anyone done it? I'd prefer not to pump more money into this thing since it's probably going to die again in 6-9 months.
Also, is there a fan in the 500mHz iBooks? I'm thinking that may be the problem, b/c it's been running incredibly hot lately and have never heard the fan come on.
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Apr 30, 2007
I am planning on purchasing an ibook G4 from somebody on craigslist. It was purchased in 2006. I know that ibooks were known for having problems with the logic board, but was that taken care of by mid 2006? Also did they fix the problem with the inverter cable going out from the hinge set up on these? I had previously bought an ibook g3 that the inverter cable was going out for really cheap, i just used it until the cable finally quit working and i'm parting it out.
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May 26, 2009
I have two iBooks with bad logic boards, which may or may not be caused by the GPU issue that so many G3s suffer from.
So I was on ebay looking for logic boards and I came across a couple of postings for logic board repair. It sounded like most of them will just resolder the points on the GPU, if thats the problem you have, if not they tell you they can't fix it and charge you nothing, or so their ad says.
The deal is you pay $50 over paypal, ship the computer cross country, they do the work ship it back and voila...
Has anyone ever done this? Is it a scam?
Sure paypal can protect my $50, but if I ship them the computer I may never see it again. Even though it's busted it's worth something...
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Dec 17, 2009
last week I started to get scrambled video on my iBook G3 (2002 vintage) running 10.2.8. I got it to start up correctly before freezing twice in the last week, but it appears to have given up completely today. I'm not as concerned about this as I would have been a few years ago, since I have a lot of experience with similar problems. Apple replaced the logic board under AppleCare in 2003 and again in 2004, and this is part of the series of iBooks that Apple was fixing for free for a while as part of a class-action settlement. Apple doesn't appear to be doing that anymore (that's fine, the computer is Old with a capital O and it's not feasible to continue supporting the product), and I assume that this has effectively totaled the computer
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Sep 21, 2006
will a 12" powerbook logic board work in a 12" ibook? i mean they aer the same size but is there something that wont work?
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Jan 7, 2008
Is it possible to replace the logic board in a 12in 700mhz g3 ibook with a g4 12in logic board? I was just wondering because I came across a g4 logic board.
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Jul 17, 2009
I have an old iBook G4 with a dead logic board, everything works fine for about 10-15 minutes, then the display stops responding. The hard drive continues to spin, processor still chugs, etc. I'm going to leave it running iTunes in a few minutes and when it freezes, hit the space bar to see if the actual machine still responds. (In which case I would be sure that it's the video card, or some cable in that area.)
My question: I'm looking on eBay for replacement logic boards, and I'm wondering how specific/universal they are. Obviously, it needs to come from a 14" iBook, but does it matter what processor speed? Eg. Will a board from a 1.2GHz iBook work? I have the iFixIt guide, and I'm not too worried about wrecking the thing, so it's just a matter of making sure I get the right part. (How about this one: Linkety ?)
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Nov 4, 2006
After 3 days of contact with Apple support they have determined that even though they sold units with defective logic boards and the serial number of our unit falls in the range of units with the problem, Apple is not going to honor the replacement or prorate repair since the program expired in August...I thought only software houses used customers to beta test their products
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Jan 8, 2009
I picked up a 12" PB for 160 USD today. It had a bad battery and noisy and seemingly non functional optical drive, stock configuration. Looked like someone tried to open it up and failed to put back one of the hinge screws. I believe this is causing a green line (crimp in the video cable) on the screen. My question is: I have never replaced the optical drive on one of these. I bought this for a friend whose ibook died and he has a nearly brand new dual layer ATA superdrive in it that I can replace into the Powerbook. I knew this was daunting. Then I really just looked at the ifixit steps and yeah, you have to dismantle the WHOLE computer. There are 46 steps to replace the optical drive. Has anyone attempted this? I don't understand why you have to take out the logic board to get the optical drive out? On the upside, the near dead battery is eligible for the replacement program, so Apple is sending a new 125 dollar battery. Sorry I am rambling, just freaked at how much work it is to put a new optical drive in these things. Major surgery. someone on MR said they did it before.
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Sep 21, 2010
Have an early 20" iMac G5 and the Hard drive started to squeal and then crashed. Tested dive in another iMac and it is definitely bad. Installed new hard drive and the system fails to find it. Formatted it on the other iMac and reinstalled but it still is not seen by the system. Everything was running very well until the drive failure. Took it to an Apple approved store, paid the $60 to be told that the Mother Board was bad. It is hard for me to believe that a disk failure could cause a Mother board failure. 2- 20" iMacs, a 24" iMac, and a new 27" iMac (not yet out of the box.)
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Jun 9, 2009
So the cable that connects the hard drive to the logic board in my MacBook Pro (15" A1211 model) had the adhesive wear off and as a result, the tiny little hook broken off. Apple quoted me between $300 and $1250 (great range huh?) to fix it, in spite of that apparently useless little Apple Care warranty I paid $350 for and have never used. Sorry, kind of really annoyed right now. Anyway, I'm not paying that. I found a new connector for like $30. Has anyone had any luck reinstalling this part? Any tips or how-to's? Alternately, the hook is still there, and I've read forum posts about potentially soldering it back on, but there are no responses, so has anyone done that before? Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
Another issue is that my CD drive randomly stopped working. The guy told me something was probably just out of line, but they won't fix THAT because "there's a dent in the back of the computer." It's a tiny dent that has been there for over two years now, so...again, dumb. But I can't seem to get the screws off the optical drive to open it. Any suggestions for loosening really stuck screws?
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Aug 14, 2010
2008 mac-book pro, started having these warning screens come up by which it states that i have to turn off/ restart ( only option as no other controls work). These became more frequent until yesterday i turned it off as per warning to then restart but now it wont turn on at all.
All that happens now is that when press the power button the fans come on for about 5-10 seconds and then it just all abruptly turns off, the screen stays blank and there is also no start up sound either.
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Aug 3, 2006
The logic board on my powerbook (aluminum)G4 is fried. I would like to get the data off the drive, but would like to do it myself. Will the drive plug into an external carrier rig like any other drive? I have a granite digital external firewire drive caddy rig. I assume that the mini drive in the powerbook will not plug into an enclosure that was made for a regular drive? Are there any adapters for this sort of thing?
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Jun 18, 2010
MBP is not starting up or chiming - none of the resets work, been through that yesterday, not even getting to chime. I took the memory out of the MBP and it is running but having a loud bleep every few seconds. Does anyone know what this indicates? does this mean the logic board is ok but the hard drive is dead or could it still be the logic board? If this means the hard drive is dead then I could maybe buy a new one, if it means its the logic board I could recover my files from the hard drive via a hard drive enclosure.
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Feb 27, 2009
My primary MacBook is suddenly now powering up - Tried the power management reset....removing battery/power and attempting restart after 12 hours and so forth. Does this sound like Logic board? Is there a chance the HD data can be retrieved if it would be installed in another MacBook or...if Logic board is repaired?
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Nov 7, 2009
i need some advice on what to do next, my Intel 24" iMac has failed, diagnosed as a faulty logic board by the Apple Genius. I purchased the iMac in Dec 07, and I deliberately did not purchase the extended warranty as this is a desktop unit, that in 20 months of ownership has never been moved, dropped or transported anywhere.
I have no option than to either pay for the repair - �380 or sell on eBay for spares...!
I informed Apple about the Sale of Goods Act, and they have put the owness on me to prove it was faulty from date of purchase...! They have informed me that I need to visit an Apple authorised service centre where they will run a test and produce a report, which will determine if the fault was there in the first 6 months of ownership.
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Oct 4, 2009
I got a late 2008 MBP and recently my logic board got exchanged due to my graphic card failure. However, since the work is done, a very annoying problem occurred. When I put my hand on my palm rest (right side, the hard ware side), it sounds like I am squeezing the whole thing down and it will make some very wired noises. It sounds like cracking or sth. I bring it in apple store twice and they said they do not hear anything. Anybody have a idea about this issue? Thank you very much.
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Feb 8, 2010
Laptop suffered wine spillage, now it won't boot up. Cleaned the logic board (+ gpu/cpu/heatsink) with isopropanol, rinsed with electronics cleaner (electrosolve), but still won't boot. There are some visible signs of oxidation, very very slight. Magsafe connector works, ac adapter light only comes on when connector is connected to motherboard. Also the motherboard gets slightly warm to touch when power is plugged in. When ac plugged in, the macbook won't start up. Couple of questions:
1) Anyone have a diagram of the a1181 logic board? (2.0ghz, core duo)
2) Anyone know how which pins to short on the keyboard connector to power up (in case the keyboard is the problem); remember reading it was the farthest left pins, can someone confirm?
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Oct 1, 2010
To make the long story short, I am a careful computer user and I treat my computer like my baby since I am a college student studying Architecture and I spend more time and money on my computer than on books and there haven been 5 replacements on this mbp that I am using right now.
My 1st hard drive crash happened 3 weeks after I bought my mbp in April 2008. I got it replaced under warranty.
2nd hard drive crash happened little after 6 months............
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