OS X :: Force 64bit Kernel On Snow Leopard Build 10A380?
Jun 13, 2009
Whether anybody got Snow Leo build 10A380 (WWDC'09) successfully running with 64-bit kernel? If 'yes' - please share your method. I've tried every approach that i know: "6+4" keys, arch=x86_64 flag specified for both nvram and com.apple.Boot.plist, lipo command against mach_kernel.
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Aug 13, 2009
Yes you read that right. Your brand spanking new MBP will use a 32-bit kernel as default.
You can force 64-bit kernel but some of your hardware will not be working.
So all that marketing crap about the benefits of 64-bit etc are all B.S.
I don't want a million threads about how this will not effect the running of 64 bit apps, etc. because it will. Your 64-bit app will run but it will not be able to address more than 4Gb of RAM.
There are also many more advantages to having a 64-bit kernel.
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May 18, 2012
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I know this has been asked numerous times, but most of the answers I found were old and archived. I was wondering whether or not an update or a guide has been released which allows a successful boot into 64bit kernel? Â On a side note, I have verified my computer does have EFI64. However I know in the past that this stil didn't enable a 64bit boot.Â
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MacBook Pro, Mac OS X (10.6.8)
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Apr 11, 2010
I know by default that Snow Leopard starts up in 32-bit kernel but anyone here boot into the 64-bit kernel? I think to do this you'd have to hold down 6 and 4 keys while booting.
By now almost all 3rd party apps are running 64-bit and all this time I've totally forgot about the 64-bit kernel!
I've just booted up to 64-bit kernel and all apps load instantaneously!
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Aug 27, 2009
So, with Snow Leopard, there is a 32-bit kernel, and a 64-bit kernel. Correct?
As I understand it, it will boot into the 32-bit kernel by default, but if your hardware is supported, you can select the 64-bit kernel.
My question is - where is the list of supported hardware, and how do you select the 64-bit kernel?
My confusion comes from several posts and various articles which all say the first-gen aluminium iMac has a 32-bit EFI, and therefore can only boot into the 32-bit kernel. But I've just downloaded an app called Startup Mode Selector, which shows you your system config, and it says I have a 64-bit EFI.
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Oct 27, 2008
Is it technically possible for Snow Leopard to build into OS X the WINE project, and have seamless ability to install and use Windows applications on OS X (without X11 cluttering it up - and with the realization it wouldn't be 100% compatible?) Is that even possible? Would the WINE license prohibit it?
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Apr 1, 2009
Mac OS X version 10.6 Snow Leopard build 10A314 Got the email from ADC.
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Jun 8, 2009
What's the latest build #?
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Jul 28, 2009
Does anyone know if LCC works in the newest Snow Leopard build? I know it had problems with the WWDC build but thought I would check now
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Aug 28, 2009
Contrary to belief, Snow Leopard by default (except for Xserves) runs in 32-bit mode. Check for yourself.
Code:
uname - a
You should see something similar
Code:
root:xnu-1456.1.25~1/RELEASE_I386 i386
I forced it to 64-bit on my '08 Mac Pro and things were slower! Spaces was very slow. Dashboard was quirky. I say avoid it.
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Nov 4, 2009
Development build 10C535 of Snow Leopard update 10.6.2 retains Intel Atom support after the previous build had killed compatibility with the processor.
According to the developer blog which initially told of the Atom incompatibility, the latest build of OS X 10.6.2 does retain support for Atom chips. It was previously reported that support for the Intel chip had been dropped, a move that many believed was Apple's attempt to stop the small but burgeoning "Hackintosh" netbook community. This all may change when the final 10.6.2 build is released, but as of now Atom support has returned.
Intel's Atom processor is a low-power, low-cost chip which is intended for notebooks and ultra-mobile PCs. No current Apple products use the chip, but a community has formed around installing Snow Leopard on so called "Hackintosh" netbook PCs which use the Atom processor. This unauthorized use of Apple's operating system has grown in popularity since the release of small, inexpensive notebooks such as the Dell Mini 10v, which allowed for easy installs of OS X.
Last year, it was reported that an executive at Intel had publicly vouched for the Atom processor to be used in Apple's tablet. With the buyout of chip designer P.A. Semi, many believe that Apple is instead designing its own chips for the platform.[ View this article at AppleInsider.com ]
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Mar 25, 2009
Was this not included in the beta build for WWDC? I can't seem to find anything online regarding it.
A good idea for the startup music: Daft Punk - Harder, Better, Faster, Stronger
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Mar 19, 2012
Can I run Snow Leopard on a MacBookPro Late 2011 build 11D50b? I have read in the forums its possible for early 2011 MacBook Pros. Even on a virtual machine would be OK. Print Drivers are not available for 10.7 for photo printers we use for our business and will not be made since the printer is no longer manufactured
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MacBook Pro (15-inch 2.4/2.2 GHz)
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Dec 4, 2009
I recently installed Snow Leopard. It works faster than before and it gave me 8GB of space back. But, after looking through Applications in system profiler, I found out iTunes is not 64-bit unlike Safari and other native applications that have been re-written to 64-bit. I remember Apple said iTunes is also re-written. I must download a new version or it's included in an update (I'm waiting the 10.6.2 update to download at the moment)?
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Mar 24, 2012
I tried to boot my mid 2009 macbook pro running snow leopard into 64 bit mode by holding down the 6 and the 4 key on the keyboard after shutting it down and then powering it back up again, it won't start up, it's stuck at the apple symbol with the rolling cursor
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MacBook Pro
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Aug 22, 2010
just got me a brand new 2010 MacPro 2 x 2.4 Quad-Core with 12GB Ram and the ATI 5870. This is the first MacPro to system boot into the 64bit Kernel by default (ie, hold 3+2 on restart to boot into 32bit Kernel). One of the first things I did was run the Photoshop performance test, which FYI on my old G5 2.7 with 4GB Ram returned a time of 114 secs, and on the new Quad-Core in 64bit kernel returned a time of 14 secs, so as you can imagine I was pretty happy with the results.
Then the problems started...... when I was installing software I got the dreaded Kernel Panic, restart your machine screen. So I did, and it happened again on restart, so I did, and it happened again on restart, so I did.... you get the idea. So I put the system disk in and restarted, then reloaded OSX10.6.4 and everything seemed to be going fine, until I installed software again (different app from the first time), and I got the Kernel panic screen, then again on restart etc, so I booted into 32bit kernel and all is good. EXCEPT! - When running the Photoshop test in 32bit Kernel it returned a time of 17secs. Now, I know I am being picky here, but I do a lot of work in PSCS5, and by a lot I mean sometimes all day on large photographic images, so 3 secs is a big deal....
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Sep 14, 2009
My brother has the first generation of the iMacs that has a Core duo processor (not Core 2 Duo). Will snow leopard work on it? On Apples site, it says that you need a Intel processor to run Snow leopard, but then below it says you need a 64bit processor which is what he doesn't have.
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May 11, 2012
It appears that for whatever reason, the kernel on my Mac is 32bit/i386, but the architecture is 64bit:
Darwin system.local 11.3.0 Darwin Kernel Version 11.3.0: Thu Jan 12 18:48:32 PST 2012; root:xnu-1699.24.23~1/RELEASE_I386 i386
Though the kernel itself is a universal binary:
mach_kernel: Mach-O universal binary with 2 architectures
mach_kernel (for architecture x86_64): Mach-O 64-bit executable x86_64
mach_kernel (for architecture i386): Mach-O executable i386
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Mac Pro, Mac OS X (10.7)
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Dec 4, 2010
I currently have external storage devices by DataRobotics - 2 DroboPro and 1 DroboElite. I bought the new MacPro 2 months ago and have been having problems with the Drobo devices disconnecting constantly. After a lot of diagnostics including Apple replacing the logic board in my MacPro, it was identified that the issue was with the iSCSI initiator that DataRobotics uses. It is not 64bit kernal compatible and as a result, the drives disconnect randomly especially when moving data from one external drive to the other. I am forced to boot the MacPro in 32bit kernel mode for the drives to work properly. DataRobotics is not committing to fixing the 64bit kernel issue so I'm now looking to replace this technology.
I found some interesting technology by Netgear and was considering buying their product, however, I had the worst experience ever with dealing with pre-sales & technical support department, after dealing with 4 different individuals, I concluded that they have no clue about their own products, the staff is so junior, it's as if I called a completely different company when talking about their own product. I am therefore going to stay away from that company.
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Mar 24, 2012
Not sure what my wife did but I have a copy bar that states Downloading untitled download to downloads. There is a bar indicating something is happening. There is an x next to it to stop it but it will not stop. I tried to shut down my computer but it will not let me as there is something running. Is there a way to force quit like in windows with control alt delete?
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MacBook, Mac OS X (10.6.8)
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Jun 12, 2012
I can't empty my trash can as I get a message stating "This operation can't be completed because an unexpected error occurred (error code -8003). I tried using the program "Trash It" and nothing happened, not even an error message. I tried the program "Force Empty Trash" and get the message "rm: /Users/MYUSERNAME/.Trash/*: No Such file or directory" I even tried using terminal using this command: "rm -rf ~/.Trash/*" and no avail.I'm using Snow Leopard 10.6.8?
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iMac
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Sep 3, 2009
Since Tiger and even more so with Leopard, I have found the 'Force Quit' command to be a pointless white elephant.
When the spinning beachball hits it tends to make the application unresponsive and then spread to all other apps. Attempting to bring up the force quit function is equally fruitless. Of course, by the time it eventually pops up, the offending application has either quit itself (I'm looking at you Adobe CS4) or has become responsive again (I'm looking at you Safari).
Has anyone noticed any improvement in Snow Leopards?
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May 12, 2012
Having problems today and yesterday regarding spinning beach ball and inability to force quit. Resort to power button restart. Â
Both times I was online using Safari browser. Now temporarily using Firefox just to see if this happens again or not. Meanwhile wondering if it is safari or possibly because I've had iwork 09 opened while browsing.Â
Just as a test while the ball was spinning, unplugged my server connections, then plugged back in. But this wasn't the issue. In addition, checked preferences when this happened tonight.
Below are the plist files that may reference some help:Â
com.apple.pushserviced.plist
com.apple.BezelServices.plist
com.apple.Bluetooth.plistÂ
Perhaps no concern with the plist files, but would like any feedback. Â
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iMac, Mac OS X (10.7.2)
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Apr 23, 2012
Our company has a SL server with Software Update service running. We have all SL Mac's except for one brand new iMac with Lion.Of course, the new iMac cannot get software updates from our server unless I make some changes on the server to accept Lion updates.Â
I'd rather not do that, as with only one Lion-equipped Mac, I don't want to take up the extra space for all the Lion-related updates. So, the question is, how can I reconfigure this one iMac to look to Apple's servers instead of our local server? I've looked and looked in the workgroup manager for where that assignment is, but this computer is not part of any group (user or computer) that might be inheriting the setting.Â
Is there a manual way to reconfigure the iMac to look to Apple's servers? Â
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Apr 25, 2012
Due to some restrictions I can't let my users mount external HDD's/USB Flash etc. in RW mode. Onle read is allowed, so how can I do that without OS X Server installed?
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May 25, 2012
I'm in an accademic environment, and I've got an iMac that's used as a monitoring device. Problem is, that students like to log out of the monitoring account and log into their account so they can check email/Facebook. They easy solutions (like move the machine or restrict student access) aren't viable. I can limit network logons to only specific accounts, but that doesn't stop them from logging out and trying anyways.
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Jun 22, 2012
When I try to use this command I am sent to front row. I can force quit throught the apple menu. This began when I upgraded to Snow Leopard.
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iMac, Mac OS X (10.6.8)
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Jul 25, 2009
I've seen something about com.apple.boot.plist, but I need a little more further information. After type: Code:
ioreg -p IODeviceTree -w0 -l | grep firmware-abi
I receive the following from terminal:
Code:
|| "firmware-abi" = <"EFI64">
Looks that I am able to run 64-bit kernel.
My computer is a white macbook early 2008. Core 2 Duo T8300 2.4GHz.
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Aug 31, 2009
Just wondering what the thoughts everybody was having regarding loading Snow Leopard with a 32bit kernel (i.e. "normal" install) or 64 bit kernel (i.e. holding down the "6" and "4" keys during reboot).
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Aug 28, 2009
I did a bit of reading on the internet, and it looks like most computers will not boot into 32-bit mode by default with 10.6. It appears that if while booting the user holds the 6 and 4 keys, the computer will boot into 64-bit mode.
Does anyone know anything about this? Will the computer always boot into 64-bit mode if this is done once? Will it even make a difference? Will the average user want to do this?
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