MacBook Pro :: Finding Safe Operating Temperature For The 330m GPU?
Dec 29, 2010
I googled and couldn't find the Tjunction for the GPU.
Mine went as high as 90c / 194f. When I play games it usually stays around 86c / 186.8f with the fans in overdrive.
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Oct 18, 2009
When I'm putting a heavy load on it (Compressor, Handbrake, etc), the fans crank up to 5000-6000rpms, and the temperature hovers around 97-98C (207-210F). I've never seen it go above 210...so...it's just shy of being able to boil water for me for a nice cup of tea.
Even when it's idle - just doing email/web/etc, it run's at 120-150F (49-66C), which is the temperature most people on the threads I've found say is the max for their portable.
Do you think this thing is built to handle those temperatures day in and day out? Is there any 3rd party hardware to make it run significantly cooler (I have smc fan control - but lately, since the last software update from Apple, it won't change the temperature anymore, so I can't keep the fans pegged at 6000 which does bring the temperature down under 200F.
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Dec 1, 2009
Is there a way for me to read the operating temperature of my HDD?
I recently replaced the standard HDD in my 20" Intel iMac with a new HDD that's 1T and runs at 7200 RPM...
Now I've read about high temperature causing HDD failures.
Also, I've seen software you can download where you can control the fan speed to help cool the HDD...Anyone heard of this? If so, should I download such?
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May 30, 2012
The specifications, for MacBook Pro, mention that the operating temperature is 10 to 35 Deg C. Does it mean that MacBook Pro will not function above 35 Deg C? Is it recommended to operate MacBook Pro always in an air-conditioned environment? As I plan to buy for the 1st time, I seek an answer.
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MacBook Pro
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Apr 21, 2010
my biggest problem on my old laptop was overheating, so I like to keep a close eye on my temperature. I'm using istats menu thingie, showing me my temperature (in degrees F). I've been keeping an eye on it ever since I got my new i7 MBP.
It tends to run around 100 or 110 degrees... 120 if I'm running firefox.
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Feb 21, 2008
I'm running Folding@Home and my CPU is at a constant 88-90 degrees celsius. Is this a safe operating temperature?
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May 1, 2012
So I've been having issues with my laptop crashing repeatedley and I ended up putting it down to overheating (from feeling the base/black strip) and do I downloaded a widget for dashboard which tracks CPU temperature and I'm runnin fairly consistently at 70-95, sometimes up to 103 degrees or so. Figure this can't be good for it, and from my reading it should be running at about 60 degrees or so. So how hot is too hot, and how do I go about cooling it more than the fans at 6300rpm?
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MacBook Pro, Running Leopard
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Jun 24, 2012
what is the normal operating temperature for a power mac g5 quad model
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PowerMac, Mac OS X (10.5.8)
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Feb 3, 2010
Does anyone know the maximum operating temperature inside the new 27-inch iMac? I've read that they shouldn't be operated beyond 35 degrees Celsius [95 degrees F]. But that's the ambient temperature, not the computer's internal temperature.
I ask this because I have been running iStat for years. It monitors various things, including internal temperature. I always keep an eye on this during warm days, even when I have the air-conditioning on. So it would be good to know the maximum temperature.
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Apr 2, 2009
I put all the fans up to 1000 but Power Supply stays at 599. Any thoughts why it wont go up? Also whats a safe temp for harddrives? My HD:macintosh drive was around 39C- 41C when I put the fans on higher. Now its at 37 and its only 60degrees out today and my room is already over 70 (dam attic ) i wont be able to use my computer when its 100 out
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Aug 11, 2008
I've searched a lot about MacBook (not Pro) overheating. I found some cooling pads, but i'm not certain if I need it.
So, my question is: from which temperature should I start to get anxious?
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Apr 20, 2010
I just set up yesterday a new i7 MBP after transfering my files from my old iMac. I'm a little concerned about the battery life and temperatures it's running at. The battery hasn't seemed with minimal programs running over 4 hours but I suppose this is because it's new and will improve over time.
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Aug 18, 2009
everyone knows that the macbook pro gets hot... but how hot is safe and how hot is too hot. I have a widget who monitors the heat of many components, the average for the cpu is 60 to 65 degree Celsius, (140 to150 Fahrenheit) the highest temp is the cpu diode that is usually around 70 Celsius,(158 f) sometimes up to 76 C (169 F) enough to cook eggs...I am under the tropics (India), i am setting up a fan system, i just want to know what is the safe range for the cpu.
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Apr 25, 2009
Looking at a secondhand Canoscan obviously slightly older model no longer available. If it says required operating system Mac OS 10.1.3 and I have 10.5.6 will it still work?
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Jan 4, 2011
I noticed that iStat and Temperature Monitor report different temperatures for the same readings on my G5 Powermac Dual Processor System. For example as I am writing this Temperature Monitor is saying My CPU A is 46.8C and CPU B is 46.7C. In iStat it says CPU A is 55C and CPU B is 54C. Which is right!?
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Feb 19, 2009
I apologists straight away if this have been covered recently, but i need to ask.I have MacBook with Intel Core Due Processor, 2 GB ram.What is the average temperature CPU temperature for standard usage ( I know that standard usage is very arbitrary, and by this I assume safari, iTunes and let say Pages to be the only major apps running ).I use iStat pro widget and according to it my CPU temperature is 55*C. Is this too high? Lately the fan has been turning on more recently almost without any apps running so I think that there might be some hardware problem. I ran HardwareTest it found nothing.
The macbook is 2 yrs old. Do i need to get it cleaned or is there something else I should be worrying about?
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Sep 24, 2009
Up until now, I have used my laptop for personal use and some photo work.
NOW I will be using it for my business that works with credit card #'s AND social security numbers. Very sensitive data. What I am basically doing is pulling information from a website database off the site and saving onto the computer.
My friend who works in IT security is basically telling me to dump the laptop for a desktop. That even if I store the information off the laptop that because it passes through the machine that the information can be accessed somehow. I have never heard of that but then again I don't deal in IT security. Is that true?
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Jan 2, 2011
Can it be done? Haven't seen anything leading me to believe so but I thought I might try.
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May 5, 2010
My 2.4ghz i5 MBP runs a lot better when using discrete graphics. Minimizing and maximizing windows, scrolling, opening folders etc... all run smoother with the 330M. Is there a way to always run the 330M when plugged in, and switch to automatic graphics switching when unplugged? This would be the perfect solution for me.
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Aug 26, 2010
I'm thinking of getting a new MBP, but want to be able to play MMORPGs like Warhammer Online or similar games coming out. Can anyone speak to first hand experience with the various 15" MBPs with i5 or i7? With 256MB GT 330M vs 512 MB? I would love to be able to get the 13", but I'm sure that video card won't make it happen.
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Dec 24, 2010
Right now, I have a 2009 MBP with 2.66 core 2 duo and the 256MB 9600gt. I am looking to buy a 17 inch i5 with the 512MB 330m. With regards to gaming under bootcamp, how much better is the 330m to the 9600gt? Will I notice a big difference in my games or will it be barely noticeable? I tried to play black ops under bootcamp and it was barely playable.
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Dec 31, 2010
So I just sold my MB and am going to be upgrading to a MBP. I have been reading up on the current ones and have seen that almost everyone reccomends going with the 15" 2.44ghz vs the 2.66, as the ~$400 difference is not justified. What still sways me towards the higher end 15" is that the 330m has 512mb vs the 256mb in the base model. I will be using it for games such as The Sims 3, Civilizations, and SC II. I will also be using PS as well. Will I notice a huge performance difference between the 512 and the 256?
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May 4, 2010
Standard bootcamp drivers are quite old so I went to upgrade the drivers from nVidia.com; I noticed that nVidia doesn't support the 330M under its driver page, am I to assume the 330M is an Apple specific part? Will nVidia support the 330M in an upcoming release?
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May 28, 2010
I currently got a late 2008 MBP with the 9600M with 512 Mo VRAM.
I got sick of that glossy screen and that's why I've stepped towards the i5 Anti glare.
Anyway I'd simply like to know if I'm about to loose some perf with the new GPU having only 256 Mo VRAM compared to my old 9600 with 512.
Concretely, I'll be playing Starcraft 2 on my MBP's screen, so no external screen and huge resolution.
Do you think it'll be better with the i5 spec ? Same ? Worse ?
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Sep 14, 2010
Before there was a discussion on a couple of apps people had written that show in the status bar whether you're using the Intel HD or Nvidia 330M on an i5/i7 macbook. I now have an i7 MBP but can't find the thread anywhere (tried MRoogle too!).
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Apr 13, 2010
I am not really a gamer on my laptops, is there any other reason I would want 512 vs. 256? Can OS X tap that memory for other functions? I just do programming, web dev, virtual machines, email, office, etc.
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Apr 23, 2010
I know a couple guys in the MBP refresh gaming thread were able to overclock using Nvidia Tools. I'm not having any luck; the sliders are grayed out and I can't make any changes with system tools 6.06. I've also got errors when trying to install Nvidia drivers other than the ones included with Bootcamp. What driver/system tools version are you using to OC? And what settings have you tried? (I'm on Windows 7 64bit).
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May 30, 2010
I would first like to start off with the disclaimer that I am not good at writing guides and I am also not a pro with overclocking but here is my attempt at both. Also I am not liable for damages to your computer and ask fobis has mentioned each gpu even if they are the same may overclock better or worse then the next. So take my overclocking numbers for what they are worth. Experiment and try it out on your own.
Note: This guide assumes your running Windows 7 64bit, and also it assumes that you are new to overclocking.
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1.First make sure you have a copy of windows installed through bootcamp.
2.Then go ahead and install the drivers that came with bootcamp ( we won't be using the gpu drivers but the rest are going to be useful anyway so might as well go ahead and install them )
3.After you have all that you will want to go here to get a modified driver. This will give you better performance then the bad drivers that apple supplies it will also let you overclock the gpu
4.After you have downloaded both the driver and the INF file open up the driver and it will extract the files to the directory that you choose. It will also try to launch the install but it will fail saying something like " no compatible hardware found " ignore this for now.
5.Now take the INF file and copy it to the folder that the driver was extracted too. It will ask you if you want to overwrite the file just say yes.
6.Now open up the device manager by right clicking on my computer, selecting properties, this should open a new window and on the left there should be something that says device manager.
7.Under the tab that says "display adapters" select the only device that shows up on that tab. Right click it and choose uninstall.
8.After you have done that it will likely mess up your resolution and set it too 800x600 don't worry this is normal. Now just restart your computer.
9.Once you have restarted when it starts back up it will say new hardware found. Now you have to choose to install it manually choose the option that says something along the lines of " search for drivers in specified area "
10.Now it will take you to a new page and on that page there should be an option that says "have disk" choose this and select the directory that you extracted the driver too earlier in this guide. It should find one of the files that it can use and install it just fine.
11.You will need to restart again once this is done but when you start back up your resolution should be fixed if not just right click and hit screen resolution and just change it back to the native resolution.
12. Download Nvidia system tools found here
13. Go ahead and install this it should be self explanatory.
14. Once it is installed open the program and go to the performance tab on the left. ( It might ask you to agree to some terms of use )
15. Just put in these numbers and hit apply
646 for the first one
864 for the second one
and 1314 for the third one
Now your done if your paranoid like me of overheating your computer you can also optionally download and install LubbosFanControl to max out your fans to keep it as cool as possible.
Enjoy your faster GPU!.
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Before OC:
Furmark
Points:912
FPS: min=13 max=22 avg=15
Crysis: 24.89
Unigine Sanctuary Demo (run with everything on defuilt excapt resolution turned down to 1280x800 )
DX10:24.9fps (score:1057)
OpenGL: 23.2 (score:982)
Unigine Tropics Demo: (run with everything on defuilt excapt resolution turned down to 1280x800 )
DX10:18fps (scores 452)
OpenGL:16.3 (scores 410)
Unigine Heaven Demo:
DX10:14.8fps (scores 372)
OpenGL:12.6fps (scores 317)
3DMark06:5975
3DMark Vantage: P2294
After OC:
Furmark
Points: 1081
FPS: min=16 max=26 avg=18
Crysis: 33fps
Unigine Sanctuary Demo (run with everything on defuilt excapt resolution turned down to 1280x800 )
DX10: 31.2fps (scores: 1322)
OpenGL: 28fps (scores: 1211)
Unigine Tropics Demo: (run with everything on defuilt excapt resolution turned down to 1280x800 )
DX10: 21.7fps (scores: 546)
OpenGL:19.8 (scores:498)
Unigine Heaven Demo:
DX10:15.7(scores:395)
OpenGL: 16.2(scores:408) WTF? OpenGL wins? lol
3DMark06:6994
3DMark Vantage: 2922
Notes: Crysis was run at 1280x800 everything on medium excapt physics on very high
Another note: The highest GPU temp underload from Crysis got up to about 78C after about 15mins of running the game. Furmark got the temp up to 80C though after about 15mins also.
I have also played TF2 at max settings @ 1920x1200 for over 2 hours to test stability and it ran fine without any hiccups
Also I feel that this card can be pushed further then this ( I have not tried ) but from what I see it cools a lot better then I expected from a laptop I come from a world of desktop overclocking.
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Jun 1, 2010
The 9400M was in older Macbook Pros and I've seen many videos where people run crysis on high/very high and have pretty good FPS. The laptops arent as fast as the newer ones, but yet my MBP (specs down below) which is faster, can only run crysis on medium at around 30 FPS, unless i wanted 5 FPS with high. The only reasoning for this, to me at least, is that the 330M chip is not as good. Is this the case? If so, why the hell did the graphics chip get downgraded? Here is a link to one of the vids I was talking about: [URL:....] This guy is using the demo for his vid. when i use the demo, it doesnt even give me the option of using very high settings, and when i'm on high, my screen flashes in and out, i get random lines across the screen, and then my computer freezes.
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Jun 29, 2010
Is there a significant difference between the new nVidia 330m Graphics against the older 9600 cards found in the slightly older MacBook Pros (i am talking about both having 512RAM) not really bothered about the auto-switching deal as i will be Windows frequently for Gaming and using Snow Leopard for University work, oh and as a side note, will the i5/i7 make much difference when gaming (more specifically Modern Warfare 2 and Gears of War),
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