Mac Mini :: 3.1 (2009) - OpenGL Performance 2x Slower Than 2.1
Apr 4, 2009
I've noticed something rather subtle at first. My new mac mini just did not give me any faster feel comparing to old one, as matter of fact my old mini seamed faster and smoother. After comparing minimize/maximize animations while holding shift on old and new system system by side, I have noticed that new one gives off as having 2 times slower frame rate or slight flickering when doing minimize, maximize and magnify effects on dock. Also gave some shabby feel comparing to old one.
After I have run XBench of both systems and 2 restarts, it came as consistent result that new system scored 125+/-4 vs old one 280 on OpenGL test, more than 2 times slower! I expected upgrade to be upgrade, not downgrade! What could be issue, it is supposed to be 5 times faster. Is it not tuned up or quite not ready drivers. Will this issue be fixed by apple anytime soon? I love apple but I feel disappointed that my old system gives smother user experience than my new one.
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Jan 24, 2010
I just got a brand new Mac Mini 2,26 Ghz Core 2 Duo, 2 gig RAM, and it's hooked up to my tv with a mini-DVI adapter. Snow Leopard installed. I noticed right away that the screen looks really sluggish, with screen tearing and laggy video performance. Playing videos in Plex for instance there is a lot of screen tear and I had to set the display to 720p to get it decent, and even then it's rough, even on SD videos! So I ran Xbench, and got a remarkable slow score on OpenGL; 43. My MacBook Pro running with the 9400M card got 97.
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Aug 16, 2010
I was thinking of upgrading but I am not sure it is worth the money for the difference of what I have and what I will gain out of the new OSX? Is there much of a difference that I would gain on performance with a Mini 2009 2 Ghz 4 GB Ram OSX Leopard 500 GB WD Blue 5400 RPM.
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Jul 14, 2010
So I just installed the Apple ATI Radeon HD 4870 in my 2.66 quad Mac Pro1 1. Everything seems to be great but when I ran Cinebench I noticed that it is running OpenGL Engine, 2.0 ATI-1.5.48. In the results I see another 4870 with higher scores running OpenGL Engine, 2.1 ATI-1.6.6. My question is this. Is there something I should update for better performance? Is this a difference in cards, OS, drivers, firmware?
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Dec 16, 2008
I just noticed that Xbench gave me a better OpenGL score on my new late 2008 MacBook compared to 10.5.5, so I was wondering if anybody knows how much better the graphics performance actually is in 10.5.6? Although I just traded in my old white MacBook with a crappy intel graphics card for the new MacBook with a rockin' graphics card, I am curious how much the 10.5.6 update improves performance on the intel graphics cards. Can anybody compare the OpenGL results from 10.5.5 and 10.5.6 to see if I'm the only one who is seeing an improvement. Did Apple update the graphics card drivers or is there some other reason I'm seeing better performance?
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Sep 3, 2009
After upgrading to Snow Leopard on my brand new MBP, I have taken notice of a definitive perf drop in OpenGL, particularly when I make use of switching windows via Spaces. The transition between windows skips and is not a smooth animation.
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May 5, 2010
This seemed like the most logical place to ask this, since the Mac Pro forum seems to be where all the higher level hardware/software modification discussion is. Currently the Starcraft 2 beta is suffering from horrible performance problems. Many of the threads I've read on their support forums point to graphics drivers as the main culprit, with DirectX->OpenGL porting being close behind. The main problem with both seems to be shaders.
One thread I found, however, is in reference to performance on Hackintosh machines. Apparently Hackintosh users, who all use custom graphics drivers for specific graphics cards (ones not ever supported by OS X, like the GeForce 9800) are getting performance on par with boot camp users, at similar settings. So my question is this: is it possible to write custom graphics card drivers for normal mac users (I myself use a flashed 4870) that optimize the use of extensions for shader intensive games like SC2? If so, where should I start looking to figure out how?
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Mar 30, 2010
I have been reading that several people are seeing much cooler temperatures on their Mac notebooks and they think it's due to better graphics drivers with the update to 10.6.3. I however thought about the huge performance hit in OpenGL going from Leopard to Snow Leopard (probably same thing). So I decided to check my OpenGL results after installing 10.6.3. However, I didn't check my xBench results before upgrading to 10.6.3. I went and found an old result which shows 67 points for "OpenGL Graphics Test." My new result for "OpenGL Graphics Test" is 111 points. When I check the xBench archives, people with rev "C" MBA's with 10.6.2 all show OpenGL Graphics Test scores in the 60s.
If this is correct, we could all have some big improvements that really show huge effects on the MBA. It should help everyone running Snow Leopard. It should lead to graphics performance gains and lower heat due to graphics demands. Could someone else running 10.6.2 on a 2.13 GHz CPU MBA run an xBench test before the 10.6.3 upgrade? Then upgrade to 10.6.3 and run another xBench test. Then please report back here with your results for OpenGL Graphics Test and hope this result is great for all of us. I believe this would be a big improvement for the original MBA too?
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Apr 1, 2010
Today I added a new member to my Mac family and became the proud owner of a 2.26GHz Mac mini, which will be used as a home theater computer for my HDTV. It's been great, but I noticed one significant problem. I'm a usenet user, and on my MacBook Pro I download video at about 1.8MBps (not mbps, which my connection is at 15mbps) which is very fast and handy.
I bought this Mac mini expecting it to be able to do the same, but even from when I first opened Safari, I noticed the pages took awhile to load. Now that I'm using usenet, I notice I peak at 0.7MBps maximum but average at around 0.4MBps. What is the cause for such a discrepancy? I'm on a 802.11n network as well, powered by an Apple Time Capsule in fact. My MacBook Pro has no internet troubles and is blazing fast, I'm not sure why this is being so slow.
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Jan 9, 2011
One of the drives in our 2009 mac mini server 2009 has died. I have taken apart many minis so have no problem taking it apart to replace, but does anyone know which drive is the primary, "Server HD" drive? Would it be the top drive (first drive you come across during disassembly) or the bottom drive closer to the logic board with the two pads stuck on? Just wondering if anyone knows for sure so I can avoid removing the drive that's still working fine.
Also, to keep the server running in the mean time, I am booting to the second drive which is working fine. Just curious, once the dead primary drive is replaced , can I simply use carbon copy clone to copy back from the 2nd drive, or will I need to install snow leopard server back onto the new drive?
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Jun 6, 2010
With a sharp fingernail I seem to have damages the internal ribbon cable that connects the audio card in my 2009 Mac Mini, and am looking to source a replacement, preferably in the EU. I'm currently in the UK.The part number is 922-8809.
A Google search reveals a few parts suppliers in Europeland, but they are all charging silly prices for the cable, and US suppliers impose ridiculously high postage charges.
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Aug 29, 2010
I download a lot of things and like high speeds, especially when I should be getting them.
The majority of the time my MacBook Pro downloads at about 1.7-1.8mb/s (as I have a 15MB/s internet service) which is terrific! I sit up in my room, a floor higher than the router and download away at great speeds.
But, if I go to download something on the Mini (and this only seems to be happening lately, oddly enough) it barely ever hits 1mb/s, is normally at 400-500kb/s and drops to as low as 90kb/s sometimes!
What can be done about this?
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Jun 10, 2009
Now that I have a New Mac Mini, What is the best internal hard disk to upgrade it with. I'm thinking dependability first and one that's quiet. Now that the Seagate 500gb 7200rpm drive is at v.4 it seems the way to go, just want to make sure. The Hitachi TravelStar 7K320 320gb is a cheaper option if its just as good or better for dependability and silent/cool operation. And on reading some reviews of the Western Digital Scorpio Blue 500gb 5400 it seems a very good drive too and maybe just as fast as the higher priced and faster spinning Seagate.
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May 18, 2012
software is upto date yet my macbook gets slower and slower by the day
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MacBook Pro
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Mar 28, 2009
I'm having what I'd consider poor performance on the new 2ghz Mini in XP.I get non-responsiveness when moving large files across the network and it just is slow overall.Its slower than my previous 1.8ghz Mini.
The standard MS drivers for the SATA controller are installed even though I ran the Bootcamp install, does anyone else show the Nvidia SATA controller driver installed? That is usually the biggest cause on non-Intel chipsets, the default MS driver for the SATA controller...I was just going to install Forceware and see what happens but wondered what other people show in Device Manager.I get a lack of response from Remote Desktop, and after several hours of high network traffic it just stops responding to the network period.OSx I'm not sure about because I rarely use it but I did boot it up to do some surfing in Safari and found its response time to be slow.
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Feb 16, 2010
I have been having some problems with my MacBook Pro going slower and slower and then eventually grinds to a halt. I'm not sure what is causing it....Is there a log that will show me any memory leaks or at least what was using up the most memory/CPU at the time it freezes? a lot of times it freezes awhile after the screensaver kicks in.
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Nov 7, 2010
I've been given the Blu-ray set of season 1 of the classic 70s sci-fi series Space:1999, but I don't have a BD player. What I am thinking about doing is buying an external BD drive for my Mac mini HTPC, ripping the episodes with MakeMKV and playing them in Plex.
I want to maximise the quality so I don't want to recompress the video in any way. At the risk of asking a really dumb question, will I get reliable playback from a truly "raw" 1080p24 BD rip played off a Firewire 400 drive, or will the data rate be too high?
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Mar 9, 2009
I have seen mentioned in a few other threads that the total recognized RAM might be superior to the official 4 Gb, just like older minis could see 3 Gb instead of 2. Has anybody tried it yet?
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Mar 25, 2009
I just got myself a new Mini, and I bought it maxed out from apple, 2.26, 4GB Ram and 320GB HDD, and when I check the temps in OS X, they are pretty normal, but I don't see the MCP temps with iStat & al. But in Windows, when I run Everest, I get a pretty hot GPU & MCP temps, in the middle 80's. I'll contact Apple tomorrow, but in the meantime, anybody with a Mini comparable to mine can check temps in windows and report back?
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Jun 4, 2009
Has anyone used a SSD as their internal HD, I am sure it would make the Mini boot faster, but what is the other performance like because I am thinking of getting an SSD for internal Boot Disk.
Also has anyone been able to boot from an external hard drive using FW800 because with the 3.5" drives being faster I have an external that I might consider booting from, but I am not sure you can install and OSX boot partition on an external and boot from it.
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Apr 3, 2012
How do get an image on a Samsung HD TV via HDMI adapter and cable?Currently get a static image of the desktop and then a grainy gray picture.
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MacBook Air, Mac OS X (10.7.3)
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Aug 8, 2009
I have a 2009 Mac mini, and since installing 10.5.8, my (fullscreen) screenshots (CMD+SHIFT+3) are corrupt - full of lines like a TV with bad signal. What is the matter?
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May 3, 2010
I have a Ubuntu iso cd made and have tried making a dual boot but after rebooting after the install it comes up to a long list of errors and then reboots to the apple log in screen. Has any one on here used Ubuntu in dual boot or on it's own on a mac mini. Just wondering what I may be doing wrong?
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Feb 29, 2012
Can I replace my mid 2009 mac mini 320 gig drive with a new 750 gig drive found in the new mini?
Info:Mac mini, Mac OS X (10.6.8)
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May 24, 2012
I've a DVD from a Mac mini Late 2009 box, named as: Mac mini Mac OS X Install DVD. Mac OS version 10.6. Disc version 1.0 2Z691-6561-A. I think it's a build 10A432 of Snow Leopard.
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Jun 18, 2012
I have a Mac Mini (late 2009) and I have connected two monitors via a VGA splitter. Both screens are working and displaying the image of the screen, but I want an extended desktop and when I try to change the display preferences it says "the arrangements pane has been hidden because you only have one monitor connected".Detect displays does not work, and neither does restarting the computer/turning screens on and off.
Info:
Mac mini, Mac OS X (10.7.4), Mac Mini (late 2009)
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Jun 27, 2012
Since I moved my apartment and got a new ISP, I am unable to connect to my mac mini server. Mac Mini is connected to my Airport WIFI and the TA/Modem but can't access using my Imac nor mac book pro.
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Mac mini, Mac OS X (10.7.3)
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Jul 4, 2012
I have the cinema hd display that comes with the mac mini 2009 and i want to connect my xbox 360 (newest version) to it.
Info:Mac mini, Mac OS X (10.5.8)
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Oct 23, 2008
Just picked up a new Intel core 2 1.83 mini. Will I see a noticeable improvement by upgrading RAM with 2x2gb matched sticks and a 320g/7200rpm drive? How easy is it to reinstall the OS on a new drive? Can I use Time Machine to back it up on an external drive and reinstall?
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Jun 3, 2009
Should I go for a 2.26GHz + 4GB ram mac mini for photoshop, illustration works, some video editing and my 3d studio Max the most. Does 2.0 & 2.26Ghz really tell the different when I am doing the rendering on my 3d max?
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