MacBook :: Bluetooth Logitech Mouse (V470) And Battery
Jul 30, 2009
Just bought a bluetooth logitech mouse (V470). It's cool and fair for what I paid, no complains there. But I got a question about the Bluetooth on Macbooks. I have the Early 2009 model Macbook White. How less is gonna last my battery fully charged with WiFi On and Bluetooth On all time? Obviusly I'm gonna turn off BT when I'm using the trackpad, but just to know.
I am looking to get a wireless mouse for my macbook - the touchscreen sadly just isn't really accurate enough for photo work and the likes - and was looking at a few options, and was wondering if anyone would be able to add a few opinions and help my choice. Looking locally I have found the Logitech v450 and v470 which both look to fit the bill, but am not really sure if one is obviously better over the other. As far as I can see, the v450 is rf, so fills a USB port, but is cheaper (and also looks nicer) The v470 is bluetooth rather than rf, so I gain back a USB port, but at the expense of what? Are there any other differences in reliability and connection, or in the battery life between the two technologies?
I'm looking to maybe replace my mouse, and I quite like the look of the Logitech G3 mouse, mainly because it looks like the same design as my trusty Wheel Mouse, but with a couple of side buttons added. The problem is that according to the Logitech site, the software is PC only, but I assume that the standard left/right/middle buttons and scroll work as normal. I've read in another post here about the MX518 that although the extra buttons on that mouse can't be programmed in the control panel (except for expose?), they work fine in other applications (World of Warcraft was mentioned, and it's that I'm specifically interested in).
So, anyone actually used one of these mice? Or should I just get the MX518?
While the Kensington worked mostly fine, the profile was really uncomfortable and the audible clicking noise from the trackball was insanely loud and drove me batty, so I returned it.
The latter two both had the same issue; lag. They lagged, badly. After less than five seconds of being idle they would go to sleep, and when you tried to move them they would jump across the screen. Sometimes they would ignore input entirely.
After some research, I learned that this is pretty inherent in the nature of Bluetooth, and only a select few vendors manage to make mice without obvious lag issues. The Kensington had only a bit, and most Apple mice have minimal BT lag as well.
At this point, however, I was done with trying Bluetooth mice. The increase in power consumption and lag was not worth the lack of a dongle. So I went looking for a mouse with a tiny USB dongle, and found this:
The receiver is really, really small. It's also part of Logitech's unifying series, which means you can pair up to six devices to it, if you have them.
source: [URL] I've been using it for about a week now, so here are my impressions of each of its features.
First, let's talk about the dongle. I seriously haven't thought of it since I put it in. 99% of the time I'm not using my USB ports for anything, so losing the port doesn't really hurt me in any way. The response time is amazing. I have to leave it for like a minute before I notice any lag upon moving it again, and even then it's pretty much unnoticeable. It's usable within half a second of turning it on and after that it's pretty much smooth sailing.
The mouse includes Logitech's Darkfield technology, which is pretty cool since it will track on just about anything except for a mirror. So, uh, those of you with mirrors for desks are still out of luck I guess? It works on glass that's 4mm or more thick, though!
The scroll wheel is quite cool. By pressing on the scroll wheel it can switch between click mode and free mode. The click mode works like every other scroll wheel you've ever used, it clicks when you scroll it. The free mode is quite impressive ... when you flick it, it's basically frictionless. You can use this to scroll through large pages very quickly. I can't help but liken it to the Magic Mouse's momentum scroll, except this is actually physical momentum.
As a useless sidenote, I managed to get it to spin for roughly twenty seconds!
You can also tilt the wheel left and right to scroll horizontally. Considering that you generally don't need to scroll horizontally incredibly often, I find this works very well for what it is. It certainly isn't as slick as the Magic Mouse's 360-degree scrolling, though.
The button behind the scroll wheel defaults to Expose, and there's front and back buttons under your thumb that are Forward and Back. Using Steermouse, you can program these buttons to do whatever you want them to do in whatever App you're using.
The build quality feels great. The sides have a rubber grip for comfort, and the body is made of a soft-touch plastic which, while not as deliciously suede-like as the Razer Orochi, is very comfortable all the same. The scroll wheel in particular feels like a real piece of machinery.
It takes two AA batteries. Um, yeah. Use rechargeable, they're cheaper in the long run and better for the environment!
Now, I know I've touched on the comparisons to the Magic Mouse earlier, but let's get more in-depth. First off, why would I bother to compare them? Well, I imagine most people looking for a mouse and own a Mac are going to jump to the Magic Mouse first, but I'd urge them to reconsider. Just because Apple makes it does not make it the best option.
The Anywhere Mouse MX is technically a notebook mouse (they make a desktop version, the Performance Mouse MX), so if you're considering it at all you probably have a Macbook. In which case, I'd be willing to come right out and say the Magic Mouse is completely useless to you. It has a few of the features your trackpad already has, but is missing a lot of the best ones. The lack of an Expose function in an Apple mouse should be criminal. Even the Logitech has this, and as maybe the most-used function of OS X -- for me, anyway -- not having a dedicated way to access it is unacceptable. If you already have the glass trackpad, the Magic Mouse really offers you nothing except the fun of pushing it around your desk.
Other standout features of the Magic Mouse:
360-scrolling: OK, yeah, the Magic Mouse wins this. The ability to scroll diagonally is awesome. I hope to see other mice incorporate this. However, the Logitech is able to scroll in every direction well enough for pretty much every task.
Um, right clicking: The Logitech does this shockingly well!
Back and forward: Surprisingly enough, pressing thumb buttons is significantly more comfortable than contorting your hand into a claw-like thing. Well, OK, you can simply lift your hand off the mouse to do these gestures, but that's bad too. Why have to do this at all? Apple's aversion to buttons strikes again.
Aesthetics: Make no mistake, the Magic Mouse is beautiful. I'd be lying if I said the Logitech is nearly as striking, but I think it is a good looking mouse in its own ways. I'm certainly not embarrassed to have it in my fashionista hands.
When comparing the ergonomics of the devices ... I mean, lots of people have tried to argue that the ergonomics -- or lack thereof -- of the Magic Mouse are a good thing, but it really reeks of justifying a problem after the fact. The Magic Mouse is not meant to be held by a human hand. Judging from its design, it is meant to be cradled by an oversized, inverted spoon.
And the dongle ... well, you saw it. It's tiny. It may bother you. It doesn't bother me.
I think that's really it. In the case of a mouse, physical, programmable buttons and an ergonomic design are really more important than gimmicks and superficial beauty. The Magic Mouse is a great concept executed poorly, and the MX series is a great concept executed greatly. Seriously, consider picking this up. It's the first mouse that's been able to pry me away from that beautiful, giant, silky trackpad.
I just upgraded from a MBA rev A to a rev B. I experienced this with both machines, so it's not just a rev A issue...
I use a Bluetooth Mighty Mouse and everything is fine... until my hourly wireless Time Machine backup starts. Then the mouse cursor becomes very choppy and sluggish. As soon as the hourly backup completes, the mouse's responsiveness returns to normal. Throughout all this, the trackpad is just as responsive as always -- no change there. I don't have another bluetooth mouse to see if its just the Mighty Mouse.
When this happens, the Activity Monitor is not spiked. The fans aren't running loud (so I don't expect its an overheating issue). This doesn't happen during a large wireless download -- just Time Machine. It's not a big deal, but rather an annoyance.
Any ideas why? Or even more to the point, any ideas on how to fix it?
does anyone currently use a Logitech Bluetooth MX900 (optical) with their MBP? I can configure the buttons fine, have no connection issues etc. But the pointer movement is quite jerky. It seems acceptable when swinging it about the screen. But when trying to do accurate tasks like click on a small button, it feels as if it is dragging. I have the tracking speed almost maxed out but reducing it doesn't really affect the dragging sensation, although it does smooth out the jerky movement. I've tried another cheap USB optical mouse but it's the same, jerky situation. I also tried a mouse mat but this hasn't helped either.
I'm assuming this is to do with lack of Logitech OS X support - The mouse works flawlessly under windows, however I think I remember a similar issue with Ubuntu. I'm baffled why the generic USB mouse was no different tho!? Is this just general OS X mouse acceleration?
I have two extra buttons on my logitech mouse: a button on the side and the scroll wheel button. I set up the logitech control center and set commands for those buttons, but nothing happens when i press them. Anyone know how to fix this?
I know mighty mouse might be the perfect mouse for iMac. But is it too big for MacBook pro 13" and downgrade portablity? Should I buy bluetooth mighty Mouse for my new MacBook pro 13" or go for those smaller, lighter and cheaper bluetooth mouse from logitech/Microsoft? Besides, does bluetooth mouse work while using iPhone tethering over bluetooth?
First off, I'm doing this on a MBP bought in June of '08, running Windows XP in VMWare fusion off of my bootcamp partition. Also, my Logitech MX Revolution mouse pairs up perfectly fine.
Well, my MX Revolution used to work on my XP partition a while ago, but I hadn't booted up directly into Windows for a while and was just using VMWare Fusion. I recently installed a new game on my XP partition and used bootcamp to directly boot up into it, but it wouldn't work.
I kept trying to use the Bluetooth Devices program in the Control Panel, which kept leading me to using the "Add Bluetooth Device Wizard." I keep using "Don't use a passcode" and it tells me it pairs (when I press the connect button on the bottom of the mouse), but the mouse does not work.
I then kept searching for updates for the Apple Bluetooth drivers, but everything was up to date.
So I decided to go into control panel and go into Add/Remove Programs and tried manually uninstalling that said "Bluetooth Drivers." Unfortunately, I may have screwed something up here haha. I can't find anything to replace those drivers I uninstalled now. I think I've created more problems than I've solved...
Also, when I try and use Logitech SetPoint and use the connection wizard, it just tells me "Please connect Bluetooth USB device" so it's obviously not recognizing the internal Bluetooth receiver (and I made sure it's connected in VMWare, AND I've tried it booting directly into the XP partition!)
Been using a Logitech Dinovo for Mac on my Mac Pro. Today I received my iMac i7. It will not find the Logitech Dinovo through Bluetooth search which is very odd as there was no problem through the Mac Pro.
The thing is that Logitech G9 Mouse doesn't have MAC supported drivers provided by the manufacturer and that leads to most of the delicate functions of the mouse not being available. (e.g. Side mouse buttons 4 & 5, DPI changing +/-) Logitech Control Center (LCC) for MAC does not let you configure it at all of course either. (since it's not even recognised/available) So after reading a few posts about the matter...it turned out that you "should" normally be able to configure all the mouse's basic buttons (apart from DPI changing) with "SteerMouse".
But even after using that program my Side Mouse buttons number 4 and 5 were not even recognised (using the program a bit urselves should give you a clear idea of what i mean). I even used the "reconnect" button several times (button used for exactly such occasions), unplugged and plugged-in again the mouse, restarted MAC but with no effect...
If anyone knows what could be wrong then i would be more than grateful to hear some possible solutions to the problem.thank you in advance.
P.S. No i m not using "USB overdrive" at the moment and it's 100% certain that it is unistalled completely.
After 2 days of playing around with the new apple keyboard and mighty mouse, I thought, that's enough, and connected my logitech keyboard + mouse.
The keyboard is a big improvement, it has both windows and apple keys on it, and has a lot of extra features, like for example being able to press the 'print screen'. Even the mouse seems to work better, could ajust to the right clicking of the mighty mouse, sometimes it works, sometimes it didn't.
One think I'm still looking for is how to disable the display of widgets when you press the mouse wheel. I tried steermouse, it lets me configure the mouse wheel click as third button, but that doesn't change anything, I tried to run LCC (Logitech Control Center?) but it only showed me my keyboard.
I know how to change the keyboard shortcuts, but can't find the mouse shortcuts?...
I've been using a Logitech G7 mouse w/ USB Overdrive (and now Steermouse). I have an issue with the mouse double-clicking when it's supposed to single-click. It does it randomly throughout the day.
I tried testing my original Apple Bluetooth Cordless Mouse (not the MM), it works fine. No accidental double clicking. The G7, in Windows, does not suffer from this problem. I know the G7 isn't "supposed" to work with OSX, which is probably the reason why it's doing this in the first place, but I have seen other readers install USB Overdrive and Steermouse without issues.
Is there a way to go to default OSX Mouse drivers? Maybe all these installs of 3rd party apps screwed something up. I don't know, just a guess. If anyone has any info on how I could go about fixing this issue, let me know.
I just bought a Logitech MX Revolution wireless mouse for my Mac Pro running Leopard 10.5.6. The mouse functions, but the Control Center application (LCC) does not recognize the mouse, hence I can't program the buttons. I've have tried every combination of uninstalling and re-installing with the same results. Here's what I get when I run the LCC from System Preferences:
I own a license for Steermouse, but you'd think for $80 they'd get the drivers working. Anyone have the same experience and find a solution? I also have a ticket in with Logitech, but I keep getting broad spectrum form responses.
If I want to format my Mac Pro (6 core 3.33 GHz) and I have an Apple wired keyboard and a bluetooth Magic Mouse will the Setup Assistant be "smart" enough to pair the mouse with the computer or will I be stuck with no mouse during the setup process? Do I have to run the entire process with a wired mouse?
Just got the Logitech Performance Mouse MX. Awesome mouse, if anyone is in the market for one. Fits my hand perfectly.
As many of you probably know, Logitech's Control Center is horrendous. Heck, it doesn't even run in 10.6.
So, what do yall use to program your mouse buttons? USB Overdrive is no longer being updated and I have heard it's pretty buggy, and for whatever reason, I couldn't figure out Speedmouse. I may try reinstalling it one more time but, I was wondering if you all knew of any alternatives.
So here's what happened: I had a MX518 that I got for my iMac, and then I found out that it had no drivers for OSX, so I ended up taking it back, and exchanging it for MX400. MX4000 has OSX drivers, but the wheel is awful. Each time I press the scroll wheel (which feels like it needs a bodybuilder to be able to press it), the thing tilts either left or right, causing it to not only activate the middle button, but also a left/right wheel button. This is very annoying.
I'm wondering if anyone here is using software such as USB Overdrive like the one found here (URL) I mainly want to run it on MX518, and was wondering if the dpi switch buttons still work with it after it's installed on the system.
So I'm looking at buying a new mouse, and the Logitech MX-1100 has me very interested. A couple questions though;
1) Are the DPI buttons customizable in OS X through the Logitech Control Centre application? Does SteerMouse or even USB Overdrive recognize these buttons for customization (I don't care too much about dpi settings).
2) I've noticed in some stores the mice on display often time have the scroll wheel spin completely without any clicks, you can literally spin the scroll wheel and let it glide for a moment. But there are others that click with each push and don't spin. Are the ones that spin freely defective or something? What gives? I prefer the free spin, since its completely silent (like the Microsoft mice) but something is throwing me off here.
what software do i need or is there something i need to do on mac, im new to the mc. Im just trying to get the left two keys on my mouse to substitute for my lack of a numpad. and maybe get the middle button as well to be numpad#3
I like this mouse, but may return it: for photoshop retouching it's maddening! I'm wondering if I got a defective unit, but I doubt it. Speed feels fine, but it gets erratic.
If anyone has one, maybe you could try this (in Mac OS X): with DPI set to the middle ("normal feel") option, try to move the arrow in small circles, about the size of a dime on the screen. Slowly. Gradually get faster. Does it do any little movements that aren't what you wanted?
Mine skips every few seconds (darting ahead a few mm suddenly) instead of moving smoothly. Enough to ruin any kind of drawing or retouching, which my Apple mouse handles fine. (It's not so noticeable for broad UI actions, which is why I didn't catch on at first.)
I retested against my bluetooth Mighty Mouse, and the Mighty Mouse does NOT skip in that way. I also tried multiple surfaces. Mighty Mouse is always fine, G5 is not. (It's not just a different "feel:" the mouse jumps erratically, several pixels at a time--and only sometimes..)
I also tested my 10-year old Intellimouse--it doesn't skip either. And I tried different mouse speeds in System Prefs: the G5 skips at anything from the slowest speed to the fastest. (I also tried the other DPI settings on the mouse--they skip too, but it's harder to test since those speeds are so far from normal mouse usage.)
Anyone else see this?
I got a gaming-grade laser mouse for precision, but if it acts like this, then I'll have to return it. Maybe it's only OK in Windows?